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Hi all,

Anybody any views on Fairline Corniche?, Outdrives (200hp), went out on friends at wkd. Boat handled very well, lots of space inside, they seem to hold their value very well and still look an attractive boat. what do you guys think of them?
 
I have a friend who used to have one and I agree with you. Still modern(ish) looking particularly with grp radar arch and good space inside. But I belive they are preferred with shaft drive option rather than sterndrive
 
Nice boat, I was looking at them ages ago and did plenty of research. Go for diesels quite a few petrols on the market. And already said but go for shafts. Lots of different layouts inside so make sure you look at as many possible and see what layout suits you best. I ended up buying a birchwood TS31 in the end because it gave me a nice aft cabin for similar price, but Corniche has a wider beam and good in the water.
 
I had a Corniche on 200hp 290 duo props for 6 years.
Best option , forget shafts.
Corniche too short for shafts and you can not do simple engine check without taking boat to bits.

My top end was 31knots log
cruise 24kts @ 1.6mpg
on a calm day would cruise at 26knts log
I had one trip 185 nm where we cruised at 26 log and 25-28 gps (tide with us most of the way)

Shaft boat will maybe cruise at 20/22 and 1.2/1.4 mpg.

I went to the Farne Islands with a corniche on shafts and he was much slower and used far more fuel.

Corniche on 200 hp 290 duo props really good boat.

We went to Amsterdam, Paris, Northern France and Channel Islands 3 times, one season we did the Farne Islands and the Channel Islands in the same year and all that time had very few problems.
We did meet the odd wave or two and she was happy ( I wasnt always)
We cruised with larger boats that slowed down before us in poor seas

Only fault I had was prop blades would fall off and I would change props at sea ( 15 mins ) so you need to carry spare 4 blade props and spanner.


I should ponit out Shaft boats fetch about £4000 more but that is good news. you get the better boat cheaper ! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I've got one if you have any questions.

Go for diesel with shafts.

The 41A (its the A thats important, I think they are 41s') engines smoke and you get soot on the transom etc, mine are A's. Apparently the B's are better!

There are three layouts, master fwd cabin with a walk around double (almost), twin bunk side cabin with double fwd and dinette that has the fwd cabin and the dinette converts to a double. I think all of them have a convertable in the main saloon. I may have a layout picture for all three somewhere.

Only problem they have over any other boat is the tanks were steel and rust away. They may tell you its an engine out job to replace them but that is not true, you can lift all of the saloon floor and just squeeze them out. I think on newer boats they were stainless steel.

MBM did a report on one last year about Feb - Mar time.

Good luck.
 
Two very different views Peter

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The 41A (its the A thats important, I think they are 41s') engines smoke and you get soot on the transom etc, mine are A's. Apparently the B's are better!


Only problem they have over any other boat is the tanks were steel and rust away. They may tell you its an engine out job to replace them but that is not true, you can lift all of the saloon floor and just squeeze them out. I think on newer boats they were stainless steel.

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Smokey engines - Volvo
go together like salt and pepper

There are solenoids on the 41's that get neglected but can be renewed for £160 each that should solve 95% of start up problem



Stainless Tanks can be a serious problem in a fast boat or any boat that is transported by road.
The stainless will fracture and empty the contents into your bilges.

It is illegal to fit a stainless tank to hold Petrol for that reason.
 
Daka,
Sounds like the performance of the duo prop version is much better, I can only claim about 26 knots flat out but I do get 1.5 miles per gallon and cruise at around 22 knots.

Re the solenoids, they are both working on mine and make no difference. As you say they are only on at start up to try to get the engine warmed up more quickly and switch off above certain revs.

Re stern drives V shafts, I asked for a service quote recently and was told about £1000 until we established mine was on shafts and the quote dropped to around £500, that is something to factor in to your running costs.

Sorry if I mislead on the tanks, I was talking about diesel tanks. I am sure the newer ones were stainless but maybe they were aluminium by chance ? sure someone with a younger Corniche will let us know.

Peter
 
Exhaust Solenoids


To the rear stbd side is a bar that is pulled down by a solenoid the size of a coke can.
This then moves a flap that closes 80% of the exhaust hole.
At 2000 revs the solenoid releases to allow the exhaust to vent.

There is a 16 amp Continental fuse on top of your engines under a black box size of A5.

If you do not hear a load clank when you turn the keys before your heater comes on then your fuse could have corroded or you might need a new solenoid.

I have Skania part no. some where if anyone needs it.

I had an over ride switch where I could choose to turn off the solenoid and fill the marina with Volvo smog, useful when moored near awkward Yachties /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
An excellent small flybridge cruiser.

Very beamy boat so perfectly stable despite being "small" for a flybridge cruiser, much more so than modern similar sized flybridge boats like Sealine F33's.

They did three basic layouts.

Two "Tri-cab" versions, which had either an offset double in the fore cabin (very small) or two singles in a V with the foot of one going over the foot of the other, then galley to port with heads aft (under the helm console) and either dinette to starboard (converts to double) or second cabin in place of dinette with two single bunk beds.

And a "Twin-cab" version which was a sort of luxury for two people layout. Bigger foreward cabin with decent sized island double bed central, larger L shaped galley to port (I think) and a larger heads (with en suite door to foreward cabin) to starboard. (Heads and galley might be other way around, forget now).

Saloon was L shaped settee to starboard converting to double, helm to port with short settee behind, or a sideboard. Sideboard version meant less shifting furniture to open engine hatches, but obviously less seating. Later boats had helm seat off a pole on the side so don't have to shift it to access engines, plus could lower and swivel it to add to saloon seating.

Final point, in order to get max space inside they are very full in the bow. As a result they plane very nose up and slam a bit into a head sea (even with tabs down). Fine in all other angles of attack though. For that reason I personally would not have a stern drive version as the last thing they needed was the weight of the engines even further aft! Plus shaft drive boat has a lot less to go wrong/cost money and is far easier to handle in close quarters (berthing etc).

Great boat, compromised layout in the tri-cab versions to get it all in, but quite a good compromise.

If you only need to sleep 2 then the twin cab is superb, with similar owners accomodation to a 40ft boat, and you can still convert the saloon for occasional extra seating.

Excellent quality, although aging now, and still look smart.

Corroding fuel tanks a very common failing with these, but you should be able to get tanks out without removing engines, although they will want a bit of dismantling.

Oh, one more thing. On shaft drive boats, when they started fitting the more powerful TAMD 41 (200hp) engines instead of the previous TAMD 40 (165hp) engines, they had issues with a lack of air to the engineroom. Later (after about '89) boats had different side air intakes to allow more air in. Suspect that ties in with ealier comment from someone about smokey engines and soot on back of boat.

Good boat.
 
Bow up may have been a problem with shafts but not with outdrives.
Agreed loads of weight to the stern but even with a RIB and Outboard on the stern there is that much spare power tabs are not required even to get on the plane.
Tabs only used for side winds etc.
When helm from below could use tabs for better view but not really needed.
I know of one corniche with 200 outdrives that did not have any fitted.
You can use the leg trim to balance.

The corniche is too short for shafts and the angle of the shafts causes the problems.

Agreed berthing with side winds made the bow lively.



I have a great set of photos on the move but can not post here but if you want them by email send me a pm, thay clearly show bow perfect.
 
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