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Was looking at an F43 today anyone got experience of these boats, ownership or otherwise? 2001 with twin 370hp volvos. Cruise/top speed sea keeping etc.
 
The TAMD63p are strong engines and should last forever but having now got used to the much better fuel consumption and clean exhaust of electronic control diesel I'd suggest you think hard whether you want these engines. If rest of boat is ok then probably go ahead, but if given a choice between these engines and equivalent electronics I'd take the latter.
 
This is my next boat of choice and so have some figures from 2004 catalogue : comes with tamd75 edc = 33 knts, tamd74l edc = 32knts, tamd63p = 30knts all WOT. New prices £296,000 to £271,000 plus extra kit options etc. Apart from driving one occasionally, I have no owner experience but people I speak to reckon its the best of the Sealine Flybridge boats by far apart from their T class range.

Give Paul Plant a shout (Planty), as he has one and loves it.
 
The 43/410 is a great boat - solidly build, nicely put together and our's has never let us down. We have the 63Ps in ours, and got 30knots on trial WOT. Down to 28ish now with all our crap on board (and see photo from the other day of the rudders & props - bit barnacly). Cruises happily at 22-24knots. Tonnes of space onboard, and a fantastic aft-cabin - though not sure useful that is for a school boat?

If you have specific questions, I'm sure I, Planty or SteveE can answer them (though I think they have 74s in theirs?).

Rick
 
I used to own a 410 which is the same as the F43 except the F43 has a longer bathing platform. We had the 410 for 2 seasons and, despite the rubbish spouted on this forum about Sealine, ours proved to be the most reliable boat I've ever owned. The TAMD63 engines suit the boat well. They certainly dont feel underpowered (I feared they might be) and push the boat easily to 30knots with a cruise off 22-25knots. The hull is a John Bennett design and is known to be one of Sealine's best
IMHO the aft cockpit/aft cabin design works brilliantly, making it very easy to move around the boat although the aft cabin is a bit tight for large peeps. The saloon is huge for the size of boat and the forward guest cabin is as big as most master cabins in other boats. Then you've got the bonus of the 3rd cabin/dinette as well. We slept 14 on our boat on one particular night!
The only bad points I can remember are these. With the cockpit canvas screens down, the boat carries quite a lot of windage and gets blown about more readily than you might expect (or perhaps I'm just a lousy driver), there is little cockpit and flybridge storage (a fair trade-off for the aft cabin), the fake wood lacquer finish inside is a bit delicate, the engine access is a bit tight and I hated those stringy bits Sealine use for adjusting the helm seats
An excellent boat IMHO and it seems others think so too as it's still selling. Good resale by all accounts too
 
We upgraded from a F33 to F43 (2004 model) the boat handles well, it is well finished, the aft cabin is what sold us on the boat, the ability also to sleep 8 adults very comfortably is a real bonus. We have 74L and top speed is about 34 knots and she cruise's at 24 knots at 1800rpm all day.

Engine access in good, check levels without taking up the saloon floor, having a separate shower and head in the aft cabin is also a plus if you have a number of guests. Last year when we went away with wiggo, Chris B4 and Hagrid we had at least 12 people on board and space was not an issue.

Only downside I would say compared to the 42/5 is the helm seat on the flybridge does not swivel and as such does not make for a very practical social area, on the plus side the bathing area on the flybrige is massive.

The cockpit is very social, as there are only 5 steps to the flybridge. Had to once helm from down stairs (yes wiggo I am a wuss) and vis is excellent from the lower helm. If you need anymore info PM me.

Steve
 
thanks for the usefull comments guys, engine room access seems huge next to my F36, aft cabin not essential on school boat its thrue plus one ends up with two double beds so no good if you have a couple plus two seperate guys.

All in all though a nice boat, would like 42/5 (Jules) however somewhat more expensive, this F43 is under 200k.

Oh and I definately would miss a lazerette.
 
Oh forgot to mention this one had been fitted with a fab utility area where the dinette/berth would be, lots of cupboards, washing machine etc,, the owners bought her down through the canals so wanted such for liveaboard.
 
Another good point on the F43, very versitile and even with the dinett removed, how many boats of that size can sleep 6? As a overseas school boat for the money I could not think of one that has the accom and sea handling that the F43 has that could give the abilty to sleep 4/6 and a washing machine and cupboards...
 
rubbish re sealines

hm, i am not entirely unblameworthy.

But some of the sealine stuff just FELT flimsy - even if, actually - it wasn't. They are getting loads better about this, beefirer wooden-step ladders etc, tho not as fast as perhaps they might.

Sealine must surely be the least head-uparse cottage-industry itsa-handbuilt-boat- sir! of the brit manufacturers, and it's a load easier to talk to head of sealine or sealine tech director without being a customer) than it is to talk to Fairline as an actual customer or to Sunseeker as a potential customer. Er yeah, actually, that's about it in a nutshell...
 
Can't disagree with a word, fantastic boat and every time we look for another boat end up on 60'+ to get anywhere near the saloon size. Would think for Sun Coast just about best boat one could consider handles well, good vis, etc.agree about Flybridge seat but nothing on 42/5 would get me to buy one over 43.

As some about will know Damn the Expense is also known as the "Toy boat" or "the Tardis", OK I know we're barmy but find storage for: Inflateable sail boat, 2 x electric scooters, 12' trampoline, 2 x Wakeboards, 2 x pair waterskis, picnis hampers, bbq's, Jet Rib or Jet Ski, full workshop virtually, ironing board (honest), fans, 3 x TV's, 2 x DVD players, playstation, Bose 321 system plus full compliment of booze and all necessary living acutements and of course the good ladies second wardobe of outfits, so storage ain't really a problem!! And she still manages 32knots and handles like a dream on 74's. Build quality? Good as you'll get anywhere else at the pricev and better than many others more expensive. Love it. P
 
Re: rubbish re sealines

"They are getting loads better about this, beefirer wooden-step ladders etc,".


err ??....What you on about Matt, Sealine have had fully integrated stairs (not steps) for years. In fact I believe they started it. Can you not remember Charma's (Fairline 50) vertical ladder and Geoffs Princess 560 is a 1993, and has a vertical ladder.
 
OK, you got me, where do you store a 12' trampoline on a F43 and the electric scooters unless they're those little kiddie ones. I can just about work out the others!
 
Re: rubbish re sealines

Was'nt referring to you in particular, tcm. I think the getting better bit started maybe 12-14 yrs ago when they introduced the first shaftdrive models. I think they realised that they could'nt move up market in size without moving upmarket in quality. Yup, they're approachable as well without the snotty airs and graces of some builders
I know its not a scientific comparison but the Targa 48 I had, which was about the same age and hours as the Sealine 410 I owned a few years ago, was far more problematic
I think where Fairline are good and Sealine not so good is perceived quality. Fairlines are styled in and out to look like upmarket quality boats (even if they sometimes are'nt) whereas Sealine's Mr Blobby look probably does'nt do them any favours in this dept.
 
Re: rubbish re sealines

Have you consdidered the F44? only mention it becuase mine is For Sale at Burton Waters, it is a 1999 Boat with 100 hours Fresh Water use from new and it is priced well under £200k, £160k would buy it!!
 
Re: rubbish re sealines

No, but it does have heating for the winter, I know not much use in Spain. The engines are 370HP. You could add them on and have the advantage of them being 2005 models rather than 3 to 4 years old!! Would I make a good salemen?
 
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