adelaidem
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Any easy hints to learn how to eye splice? so far all i got is right to left twice then left to right then tug?
Eye splice
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adelaidem
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Intresting! This is the only job on a yacht I have struggled to master!
Thistle
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jhr has pointed out a good website but an even better solution might be to get someone to show you how it's done. Asking your question while at the club bar, preferably while you have the barman's attention, might be worthwhile!
trev
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Get someone who knows how to show you - its simple once you've tried it a couple of times. The only thing to ensure is you tuck the third strand around the lay to form a locking tuck, but only on the first round.
Twister_Ken
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I can do'em, but they don't look as neat as the ones you see in articles. The problems for me seem to arise on about the tenth tuck or so, when it's difficult to remember and identify what you've already done, and work out what comes next. Still - they work!
bruce
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appear to be wrong all the time, but i was taught to continue around in the same direction when doing any splice....
jhr
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I'm with TK on this. Mine never look anything like the immaculate job on the website and probably go wrong here and there, but I haven't had one come unravelled yet. (Famous last words!) I operate a similar principle with bowlines...
adelaidem
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No problem with bowlines I can tie them with one hand with my eyes closed but eye splice not a chance just spent over an hour trying but ended up in a heap on the floor!
Twister_Ken
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"i was taught to continue around in the same direction when doing any splice"
That'll be where you're ganning agley. On a eye splice in 3-strand the third tuck comes in from the reverse direction. Which is why it all gets a tad confusing by round 3!
That'll be where you're ganning agley. On a eye splice in 3-strand the third tuck comes in from the reverse direction. Which is why it all gets a tad confusing by round 3!
bruce
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right, center strand straight on, one to right goes on right, but the third strand goes left to enter, then , if looking down the rope toward the eye, the 3 strands each come out between each strand of the main body of rope., and all will be 'at the same level of the rope' like a highrise building, each cycle of splice will be on the same level of 'floor' of the building, all three strands are worked as a group, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, etc while rotating the rope body in the direction going on strand one and two.and not all one strand then another strand and then the third
bruce
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P.S. have somebody show you, once you see it, you will see how easy it is, and eye splice, splice 2 ropes and end splices are all done in the same way. am sure your local lifeboat station would be happy to show you how.
Lakesailor
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This site, Grog's has the most amazing animated pictures of eye splicing, as well as many other knots.
Twister_Ken
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Grog puts you off
his/her disclaimer...
"Activities involving ropes are potentially hazardous. Lives may be at risk - possibly your own. Considerable attention and effort have been made to ensure that these descriptions are accurate. However, many critical factors cannot be controlled, including: the choice of materials; the age, size, and condition of ropes; and the accuracy with which these descriptions have been followed. For this reason no responsibility is accepted for incidents arising from the use of this website. "
his/her disclaimer...
"Activities involving ropes are potentially hazardous. Lives may be at risk - possibly your own. Considerable attention and effort have been made to ensure that these descriptions are accurate. However, many critical factors cannot be controlled, including: the choice of materials; the age, size, and condition of ropes; and the accuracy with which these descriptions have been followed. For this reason no responsibility is accepted for incidents arising from the use of this website. "
Talbot
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learn to splice on a three strand nylon rope, preferably soft and with a loose lay so thatit is easier to seperate one strand from the next.
Make sure that each one of the three strands has been melted to provide a thinned down end section. This make sure that the individual strands dont come undone, and that each strand is easy to pass through the main part of the rope (I sometimes use tape for the first inch of the strand for the same purpose.
Make sure you tape up the main part of the rope from the point that you dont want the strands unravelling any further.
start with the first strand that seems to be easiest, then do the others, tug the strands to make sure they are seated, and then do the next tuck, again do all three strands and pull tight. continue until you are happy with the number of tucks (I normally do 4 or 5 depending on the rope) Pull it all tight, then put the splice on the floor and roll it under your shoe with some weight , this will really neaten the splice, and make it seat properly.
As you get more proficient, you can tackle more tightly laid rope, but to do these you normally need some specialist tools.
New rope is easier to splice than old -- particularly doing eye splice on double braid.
Make sure that each one of the three strands has been melted to provide a thinned down end section. This make sure that the individual strands dont come undone, and that each strand is easy to pass through the main part of the rope (I sometimes use tape for the first inch of the strand for the same purpose.
Make sure you tape up the main part of the rope from the point that you dont want the strands unravelling any further.
start with the first strand that seems to be easiest, then do the others, tug the strands to make sure they are seated, and then do the next tuck, again do all three strands and pull tight. continue until you are happy with the number of tucks (I normally do 4 or 5 depending on the rope) Pull it all tight, then put the splice on the floor and roll it under your shoe with some weight , this will really neaten the splice, and make it seat properly.
As you get more proficient, you can tackle more tightly laid rope, but to do these you normally need some specialist tools.
New rope is easier to splice than old -- particularly doing eye splice on double braid.
Lakesailor
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Re: Grog puts you off
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and from Fray Bentos....
"Activities involving pies are potentially hazardous. Lives may be at risk - possibly your own. Considerable attention and effort have been made to ensure that these recipes are accurate. However, many critical factors cannot be controlled, including: the choice of materials; the age, size, and condition of pies; and the accuracy with which these recipes have been followed. For this reason no responsibility is accepted for incidents arising from the use of this website. "
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So has that put you off?
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and from Fray Bentos....
"Activities involving pies are potentially hazardous. Lives may be at risk - possibly your own. Considerable attention and effort have been made to ensure that these recipes are accurate. However, many critical factors cannot be controlled, including: the choice of materials; the age, size, and condition of pies; and the accuracy with which these recipes have been followed. For this reason no responsibility is accepted for incidents arising from the use of this website. "
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So has that put you off?
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10th tuck ??????
Standard practice ..... 3 full tucks and if needed to taper - remove half of each strand ... 2 more full tucks, remove half of each strand again .... 1 - 2 more full tucks. Cut of tails.
If no taper required - 3 full tucks are enough, 4th for safety. Greater than that is just wasting time and also opening up lay of rope for nothing.
Eye splice can be done with or without locking tuck .... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Jimmy Green web-site has example ....
+ http://www.btinternet.com/~arb_exchange/aie_data/aie_knot_3splice.html
Standard practice ..... 3 full tucks and if needed to taper - remove half of each strand ... 2 more full tucks, remove half of each strand again .... 1 - 2 more full tucks. Cut of tails.
If no taper required - 3 full tucks are enough, 4th for safety. Greater than that is just wasting time and also opening up lay of rope for nothing.
Eye splice can be done with or without locking tuck .... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Jimmy Green web-site has example ....
+ http://www.btinternet.com/~arb_exchange/aie_data/aie_knot_3splice.html
charles_reed
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snowleopard
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Make sure that each one of the three strands has been melted to provide a thinned down end section.
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Interesting point. I was taught to taper by cutting away 1/3 of each strand after the 3rd & 4th rows of tucks but a description I read recently suggested leaving the strands whole and stopping one after 3 rows another after 4 and the last after 5.
Some say 3 rows is the minimum, others 4 or even 5.
I've never heard of locking turns on a rope splice but have seen them in wire.
There are two main types of wire splice: The left-handed or RN pattern involves tucking just like a rope splice. The right-handed Liverpool splice wraps each strand repeatedly round the same strand of the standing part and is very much easier to do. I wonder if that is what some posters mean when talking about following the lay of the rope?
Make sure that each one of the three strands has been melted to provide a thinned down end section.
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Interesting point. I was taught to taper by cutting away 1/3 of each strand after the 3rd & 4th rows of tucks but a description I read recently suggested leaving the strands whole and stopping one after 3 rows another after 4 and the last after 5.
Some say 3 rows is the minimum, others 4 or even 5.
I've never heard of locking turns on a rope splice but have seen them in wire.
There are two main types of wire splice: The left-handed or RN pattern involves tucking just like a rope splice. The right-handed Liverpool splice wraps each strand repeatedly round the same strand of the standing part and is very much easier to do. I wonder if that is what some posters mean when talking about following the lay of the rope?
Kilter
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"I was taught to taper by cutting away 1/3 of each strand after the 3rd & 4th rows of tucks but a description I read recently suggested leaving the strands whole and stopping one after 3 rows another after 4 and the last after 5."
I use this method and it's worked well for me for the last 10 years or so.
I use this method and it's worked well for me for the last 10 years or so.
