eye splice on braid on braid rope - where to buy in Kent

[Daydream believer]

A note on seizing alone (without sitching).

It worked for centuries on hemp, but nylon and even polyester shrink too much under high load for it to be secure. Nylon will slip at less than 20% WL and polyester at 35% WL. If used as protection for stitching, the stiching actually holds the load and the seizing/whipping will become loose at about 25% of the WLL. This latter does not matter in a practical sense for most applications, because the line is not loaded that high for durability and stretch reasons, but it is something to be aware of.

For high load applications, webbing is better protection than whipping. IF you do choose a whipping, it must be applied with the line under tension (use a winch) and it must be very tight (serving mallet, not hand tight).

A 10mm braid on braid line on a mainsheet car is not likely to be highly loaded on a small yacht. Especially as it would be expected to be set up with something like 4;1 unless direct to winch only operation (unlikely) So a simple whipping would suffice & I doubt if stitching wuld be needed if the whipping was applied nice & tight, The load being nowhere near SWL. Of course if the line is a cheap one with a loose core then it is very possible that the core can slip through the cover. So line selection is important.
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On a different note. Sometimes I doubt that stitching would help. This 14mm dynema cored line was on a cleat & the load was a 2.5 tonne sinker hanging in water when it gave way without warning. 2 crew men could easily have been injured. The outer covering remained on the cleat

 

[thinwater]

A 10mm braid on braid line on a mainsheet car is not likely to be highly loaded on a small yacht. Especially as it would be expected to be set up with something like 4;1 unless direct to winch only operation (unlikely) So a simple whipping would suffice & I doubt if stitching wuld be needed if the whipping was applied nice & tight, The load being nowhere near SWL. Of course if the line is a cheap one with a loose core then it is very possible that the core can slip through the cover. So line selection is important.
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On a different note. Sometimes I doubt that stitching would help. This 14mm dynema cored line was on a cleat & the load was a 2.5 tonne sinker hanging in water when it gave way without warning. 2 crew men could easily have been injured. The outer covering remained on the cleat
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Of course, very light load. Agreed. I was just throwing that out, since I've seen people use plain seizings places whee failure would be dangerous, such as standing rigging. I've done the lab testing.

As for stitching vs. seizing, please see post 12. Stitching is stronger, easier, and more used by sailmakers and industry because it works better with modern material. A seizing can be used to take the throat stress and to hold the tail down, but is not used to carry load. That just does not work well with modern ropes. You could do the testing. I broke hundreds of samples.

Dyneema is a whole nuther' topic an would dilute the message. That would be like trying to discuss hemp alongside nylon. New thread. However, the common note is the poor load sharing, not unlike mixing seizings and stitching or carbon fiber and glass. Complicated.

 

[superboots]

Thanks for al the replies