Explain this website to me

[Warpa]

http://www.boaters-limited.co.cc/boats.html

American parts pictured in America but the company address in in the UK, whats the deal if you bought a boat, or is this some elaborate scam?

 

[landlockedpirate]

These guys have been around for a while with different sites. I think its a scam, the prices are too cheap and 'buy it now' with bank transfer. Send them an email and ask to view the boat you fancy and see what they say.

 

[Warpa]

These guys have been around for a while with different sites. I think its a scam, the prices are too cheap and 'buy it now' with bank transfer. Send them an email and ask to view the boat you fancy and see what they say.

I did just send an email saying ill pay cash on collection or delivery The prices are way too cheap though

 

[sarabande]

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248456

previous thread seems to have some relevance.

 

[azman]

The phone number is not UK based.

Phone: +1.888.881.5095

And is also shared with a Camera equipment dealer in MERTHYR TYDFIL

whois for boaters-limited.co.cc

Domain Name : boaters-limited.co.cc
Registrar : CO.CC, INC.
Whois Server : co.cc
Referral URL : http://www.co.cc
Name Server : NS1.BYET.ORG
Name Server : NS2.BYET.ORG
Name Server : NS3.BYET.ORG
Name Server : NS4.BYET.ORG
Name Server : NS5.BYET.ORG

Updated Date : 12-Sep-2010
Creation Date : 12-Sep-2010
Expiration Date : 12-Sep-2011
Registrant huck botko

24210
Abingdon, VA
UNITED STATES


Email : huck.botko@yahoo.de
Phone : 4349822663
Instant messenger :

Updated Date : 12-Sep-2010
Creation Date : 12-Sep-2010

note the phone number on the whois

from

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/prospectives/va.htm

Phone: (434) 982-3391
E-mail: asl5w@virginia.edu
Fax: (434) 982-2663
Mail: P.O. Box 400160,
Charlottesville, VA 22904-4160


so this domain was registered by a film director just a few days ago, using a german yahoo email account giving the fax number from a virginia law school

AVOID!!!!

now off to see what we can get from the camera site, and the +1.888.881.5095 phone number

 

[Warpa]

Roger that!

 

[azman]

Gets better, the scamera dealer, shares an address with

Merthyr Tydfil Rugby Football Union Club

The Boat importer is a trading estate, I can't make out the sign from google street view to see which companies inhabit the trading estate, but it's not really relevant at this point it's obviously a scam.

P.S the phone number is a VOIP number so could be anywhere.

I'm guessing somewhere in Africa at the moment.

I have a friend who is in need of a cheap boat... nudge nudge...

 

[azman]

companies house info, using the number on the scam site, takes us to

Name & Registered Office:
BOATERS LIMITED
SPICER HOUSE LINK PARK
LYMPNE INDUSTRIAL PARK
LYMPNE, HYTHE
KENT
CT21 4LR
Company No. 03493257



Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 15/01/1998

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
5552 - Catering
Accounting Reference Date: 30/04
Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/04/2009 (TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL)
Next Accounts Due: 31/01/2011
Last Return Made Up To: 31/12/2009
Next Return Due: 28/01/2011
Last Members List: 31/12/2009

Which takes us right back to poor old boots2010 and his hijacked catering comany

 

[Warpa]

I see its a scam now, we still really have our eye on this one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120622492950&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

Lack of history so trying to make a deal with a marine engineers report, will that be a good deal if the report comes back clean?

 

[landlockedpirate]

The trailer on the Ebay boat looks to be a US spec one, you need to confirm its UK legal.

 

[Warpa]

The trailer on the Ebay boat looks to be a US spec one, you need to confirm its UK legal.

He has taken a pic of the serial number and doesnt mind me sending a marine engineer to inspect the engine, BUT he doesnt come across as the boating type in the few emails i have had with him

What would happen if you had a non legal boat in the UK and who would even know

 

[landlockedpirate]

He has taken a pic of the serial number and doesnt mind me sending a marine engineer to inspect the engine, BUT he doesnt come across as the boating type in the few emails i have had with him

What would happen if you had a non legal boat in the UK and who would even know

Probably nothing, but differences could include wrong size tow ball or no brakes. It will only be a problem if you get stopped by the Police or have an accident, not sure if insurance would pay out with an illegal trailer.

It may be completely legal, you need to ask the question.

Easiest and cheapest way to check engine for a start is to run it on muffs, you cant check the drive train but you can get an idea of T&P.

 

[Warpa]

Something else i am now confused on is size, what if any (apart from space) is the difference between having a 17' or a 19' boat?

 

[Major Catastrophe]

Note that Boaters Limited's url ends in co.cc

 

[Col]

Not even tried to hide Americanisms in the ads- such as "tires, molded, gas engine, gage, sales tax" etc: