Evicting Liveaboards, What's the Truth?

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I received an email about a petition to stop liveaboards being evicted. They gave the following further information. I know very little about inland waterways. How much of the following is true?

FURTHER INFORMATION

Canal & River Trust's latest move is yet another attack on the right to use and live on a boat without a permanent mooring; a right that Parliament enshrined in law in 1995 when it passed Section 17 3 c ii of the British Waterways Act 1995. Before 1995 British Waterways (which became Canal & River Trust in 2012) sou ght powers and criminal penalties to prevent people living on boats without a permanent mooring. Parliament refused British Waterways these powers. It is unlawful and unjust for Canal & River Trust to try to achieve this objective by the back door.

The new policy means that Canal & River Trust is effectively proposing to evict thousands of live-aboard boaters without permanent moorings from its waterways and seize their boats. Up to 12,000 single people, couples and families are at risk of homelessness.

It is not within Canal & River Trust's legal powers to enforce its new policy, because it sets requirements that go beyond the British Waterways Act 1995. Boat dwellers are happy to comply with the clearly stated, lawful requirement not to remain continuously in any one place for more than 14 days.

However, the 1995 Act does not contain any requirement to travel a minimum distance or to follow any specific cruising pattern beyond the 14-day limit. Canal & River Trust itself has not stated what distance it considers “far enough”. Indeed, in December 2012 Canal & River Trust's own Towpath Mooring Q and A conceded that Canal & River Trust would be acting beyond its powers to set a minimum distance.

The new policy goes against one of the most fundamental principles of English law: that the law should be "clear, accessible and predictable, so that the citizen can tell when his actions would be unlawful" (Lord Bingham).

In addition, the new policy is likely to include the publication by Canal & River Trust of maps which purport to define the places boats without home moorings must move to in order to be in a different place. In drawing these maps Canal & River Trust has re-written centuries of history and geography by deleting many towns and villages and absorbing them into other places. "Place" is not defined in the 1995 Act. Boaters without a home moo ring are simply required not to remain continuously in any one place for more 14 days.

Canal & River Trust claims that there is congestion in certain waterway areas which it implies is caused by overstaying boats without home moorings. However, there are long stretches of waterway around the country where boats cannot moor because of collapsed banks, shallow water and concreted towpaths. If there is a genuine problem with congestion, all Canal & River Trust has to do is carry out some basic maintenance so that moored boats can spread out. If boats are overstaying, Canal & River Trust already has sufficient enforcement powers to deal with this.

In London and the south there is a severe shortage of moorings and mooring fees are vastly inflated. Canal & River Trust's own directly managed moorings are priced using an auction system where the highest bidder wins. Some private moorings have waiting lists of 9 years and more. There is no securi ty of tenure for boat moorings so even if you do take a mooring, you could be evicted at the whim of the marina owner. Or your mooring could simply be removed to make way for an upmarket waterside property development, which is why a vast amount of permanent mooring space on canals and rivers has been lost over the past 15-20 years. The pace of redevelopment is ratcheting up especially in London, taking away opportunities to create extra permanent moorings.

Canal & River Trust is asking the impossible and it knows this, and it knows that many boat dwellers will be forced to give up their homes or have them siezed. There are around 5,400 boats licensed without a permanent mooring on Canal & River Trust's waterways, out of about 33,000 boats in total. Surveys by boating groups show an average of 2.1 people on each live-aboard boat. There will be an influx of homeless boat dwellers seeking social housing on land and claiming benefits, who previously owned the ir homes and were independent of welfare benefits.

Canal & River Trust is a charity. Its published values include caring: "We care passionately for our waterways and the people who use and look after them, always striving to keep them safe and secure" and its strategic goals include: "To enrich people’s lives" in order to create "direct social benefits for individuals and communities" (Strategic Goals, Objectives and Outputs, March 2014). If you are concerned about the way Canal & River Trust is proposing to destroy the lives and community of boat dwellers, we would encourage you to also write to your MP, local Councillor and to Richard Parry, Chief Executive of Canal & River Trust (richard.parry@canalrivertrust.org.uk).
 
The truth is that for the vast majority of liveaboard boaters on CRT waterways who play by the rules have nothing to worry about.

Those who bend the rules are now finding themselves under scrutiny and they don't like it.
 
When you look at the bigger picture though, with multi-national companies paying no tax, obscene banker bonuses (even when they utterly fail at their jobs), corrupt politicians and all the other problems in society, is it really worth getting SO upset that a tiny minority of people who live on their boats don't move them very often?
Are you the sort of person who complains to your residents committee if a neighbour hasn't cut their grass often enough?
 
If by not moving, they restrict my options for an overnight mooring, or give me no option but to pay the lock keeper and listen to the weir all night, then yes, I reserve the right to get upset about it. We're not talking weeks here, but years.
 
From Teddington to Sunbury. I'm surprised you had to ask. As you know, Teddington is the worst, Kingston is catching up and Sunbury is getting more crowded every year. Only the Royal palace moorings manage their lot. Hampton is a joke.
 
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From Teddington to Sunbury. I'm surprised you had to ask. As you know, Teddington is the worst, Kingston is catching up and Sunbury is getting more crowded every year. Only the Royal palace moorings manage their lot. Hampton is a joke.
I had to ask because I only take note of issues relating to EA 24 hour moorings or designated local authority moorings. The encampment above Teddington lock does not fall into this category so they are not denying you an EA overnight mooring or a local authority designated mooring. I don't know exactly where you refer to as Kingston and Hampton but the only EA Short Stay moorings I am aware of, and listed on the EA website, are Sunbury Lock Towpath (managed jointly with the local authority) Kingston Railway Wharf and Molesey Hurst Park.
 
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I take note of all available space. The EA manage their moorings almost as well as the Royal Palaces, the Councils not so much. So many fingers in the pie and so many different land owners, but the common factor is the controller of those who float on the water and they seem satisfied as long as it's not on their land and a licence fee is paid.
 
When you look at the bigger picture though, with multi-national companies paying no tax, obscene banker bonuses (even when they utterly fail at their jobs), corrupt politicians and all the other problems in society, is it really worth getting SO upset that a tiny minority of people who live on their boats don't move them very often?
Are you the sort of person who complains to your residents committee if a neighbour hasn't cut their grass often enough?
But you might object if they emptied the contents of their khazi over said lawn!
 
I received an email about a petition to stop liveaboards being evicted. They gave the following further information. I know very little about inland waterways. How much of the following is true?

FURTHER INFORMATION

Canal & River Trust's latest move is yet another attack on the right to use and live on a boat without a permanent mooring; a right that Parliament enshrined in law in 1995 when it passed Section 17 3 c ii of the British Waterways Act 1995. Before 1995 British Waterways (which became Canal & River Trust in 2012) sou ght powers and criminal penalties to prevent people living on boats without a permanent mooring. Parliament refused British Waterways these powers. It is unlawful and unjust for Canal & River Trust to try to achieve this objective by the back door.

The new policy means that Canal & River Trust is effectively proposing to evict thousands of live-aboard boaters without permanent moorings from its waterways and seize their boats. Up to 12,000 single people, couples and families are at risk of homelessness.

It is not within Canal & River Trust's legal powers to enforce its new policy, because it sets requirements that go beyond the British Waterways Act 1995. Boat dwellers are happy to comply with the clearly stated, lawful requirement not to remain continuously in any one place for more than 14 days.

However, the 1995 Act does not contain any requirement to travel a minimum distance or to follow any specific cruising pattern beyond the 14-day limit. Canal & River Trust itself has not stated what distance it considers “far enough”. Indeed, in December 2012 Canal & River Trust's own Towpath Mooring Q and A conceded that Canal & River Trust would be acting beyond its powers to set a minimum distance.

The new policy goes against one of the most fundamental principles of English law: that the law should be "clear, accessible and predictable, so that the citizen can tell when his actions would be unlawful" (Lord Bingham).

In addition, the new policy is likely to include the publication by Canal & River Trust of maps which purport to define the places boats without home moorings must move to in order to be in a different place. In drawing these maps Canal & River Trust has re-written centuries of history and geography by deleting many towns and villages and absorbing them into other places. "Place" is not defined in the 1995 Act. Boaters without a home moo ring are simply required not to remain continuously in any one place for more 14 days.

Canal & River Trust claims that there is congestion in certain waterway areas which it implies is caused by overstaying boats without home moorings. However, there are long stretches of waterway around the country where boats cannot moor because of collapsed banks, shallow water and concreted towpaths. If there is a genuine problem with congestion, all Canal & River Trust has to do is carry out some basic maintenance so that moored boats can spread out. If boats are overstaying, Canal & River Trust already has sufficient enforcement powers to deal with this.

In London and the south there is a severe shortage of moorings and mooring fees are vastly inflated. Canal & River Trust's own directly managed moorings are priced using an auction system where the highest bidder wins. Some private moorings have waiting lists of 9 years and more. There is no securi ty of tenure for boat moorings so even if you do take a mooring, you could be evicted at the whim of the marina owner. Or your mooring could simply be removed to make way for an upmarket waterside property development, which is why a vast amount of permanent mooring space on canals and rivers has been lost over the past 15-20 years. The pace of redevelopment is ratcheting up especially in London, taking away opportunities to create extra permanent moorings.

Canal & River Trust is asking the impossible and it knows this, and it knows that many boat dwellers will be forced to give up their homes or have them siezed. There are around 5,400 boats licensed without a permanent mooring on Canal & River Trust's waterways, out of about 33,000 boats in total. Surveys by boating groups show an average of 2.1 people on each live-aboard boat. There will be an influx of homeless boat dwellers seeking social housing on land and claiming benefits, who previously owned the ir homes and were independent of welfare benefits.

Canal & River Trust is a charity. Its published values include caring: "We care passionately for our waterways and the people who use and look after them, always striving to keep them safe and secure" and its strategic goals include: "To enrich people’s lives" in order to create "direct social benefits for individuals and communities" (Strategic Goals, Objectives and Outputs, March 2014). If you are concerned about the way Canal & River Trust is proposing to destroy the lives and community of boat dwellers, we would encourage you to also write to your MP, local Councillor and to Richard Parry, Chief Executive of Canal & River Trust (richard.parry@canalrivertrust.org.uk).

Just noticed this and realized you did not get a satisfactory answer.

As usual with such petitions the organizers take a very selective view of the facts. In this case they are implying that this is a housing problem with all the talk about evictions and making people homeless and therefore a burden on society.

The reality is that the CRT remit does not require them to provide homes, although it does subject to planning permission have some residential moorings. It also has what is known as home moorings which you can rent and live on your boat, but do not have any housing type rights. The licence is for the boat not the occupier.

When the CRT was set up they realized that there was a small number of people who lived on the canals but did not have a home mooring. BWB had tolerated this but at the change it was formalized as a Continuous Cruising licence defining the principles that constitutes continuous cruising, but left CRT with some flexibility to adapt to the many different scenarios on the network.

Increasingly people are using this type of licence to establish a permanent presence on the canals, inevitably around already heavily populated areas so that they can live a land based lifestyle cheaply. The CRT has detailed guidelines on its policy and make it clear that this type of licence is not suitable for this use, but does permit genuine cruiser's to live on their boats.

Previous enforcement of the terms of this licence was lax but in recent years has been stepped up. It is this action that the protesters object to and therefore seek to avoid. Distorting the reasons for the law being as it is through petitions such as this, written in emotional language and aimed at people who don't know the real situation is one of their tactics.
 
This particular item is to do wit CaRT who are responsible for the canals and some (other) rivers. It's nothing to do with the Thames (although the problem is).
CaRT's licenses are about cruising their system and NOT about static boats providing permanent accommodation.
Quite apart from any other consideration CaRT just don't have the facilities (rubbish, water, sewage disposal) on their linear moorings.
Those who do cruise the system can and do satisfy the above needs with facilities as they cruise along.

As with the Thames this facilities challenge is very much the elephant in the room.
Those boaters who respect their environment and manage their needs are welcome - those who do not should 'go away'
 
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Just noticed this and realized you did not get a satisfactory answer.

As usual with such petitions the organizers take a very selective view of the facts. In this case they are implying that this is a housing problem with all the talk about evictions and making people homeless and therefore a burden on society.

The reality is that the CRT remit does not require them to provide homes, although it does subject to planning permission have some residential moorings. It also has what is known as home moorings which you can rent and live on your boat, but do not have any housing type rights. The licence is for the boat not the occupier.

When the CRT was set up they realized that there was a small number of people who lived on the canals but did not have a home mooring. BWB had tolerated this but at the change it was formalized as a Continuous Cruising licence defining the principles that constitutes continuous cruising, but left CRT with some flexibility to adapt to the many different scenarios on the network.


Increasingly people are using this type of licence to establish a permanent presence on the canals, inevitably around already heavily populated areas so that they can live a land based lifestyle cheaply. The CRT has detailed guidelines on its policy and make it clear that this type of licence is not suitable for this use, but does permit genuine cruiser's to live on their boats.

Previous enforcement of the terms of this licence was lax but in recent years has been stepped up. It is this action that the protesters object to and therefore seek to avoid. Distorting the reasons for the law being as it is through petitions such as this, written in emotional language and aimed at people who don't know the real situation is one of their tactics.

Thanks for your reply. I get a number of requests to sign petitions etc. and of course they are going to be slanted towards the person who wants you to sign them. It is good to get factual information before supporting a cause. Thanks again.
 
When the CRT was set up they realized that there was a small number of people who lived on the canals but did not have a home mooring. BWB had tolerated this but at the change it was formalized as a Continuous Cruising licence defining the principles that constitutes continuous cruising, but left CRT with some flexibility to adapt to the many different scenarios on the network.

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. . . people who don't know the real situation . . .


The former part of your post is a classic example of the latter.


Can you quote the bit in the 2012 Transfer of Functions legislation [or any other] that formalised a Continuous Cruising licence upon CaRT being set up?
 
The former part of your post is a classic example of the latter.


Can you quote the bit in the 2012 Transfer of Functions legislation [or any other] that formalised a Continuous Cruising licence upon CaRT being set up?

Nah, wasn't in that, as you well know. It was already present in the BWB legislation, as you also know.
 
Why would it be written in legislation?

Because the powers to demand the general canals and rivers licence are granted under legislation [dating to 1976] and the terms under which those licences can be granted or withheld are granted under legislation [dating to 1995].

Any further amendment, therefore, to create a new form of licence with different terms, would have to be granted under legislation.

In fact, and this was a large part of my point: the terms of what is colloquially known as the Continuous Cruising licence WERE set out in that latest of relevant legislation - that of 1995.

That was 17 years BEFORE CaRT was set up, and there is absolutely nothing in the Transfer of Functions Order nor in any other legislative authority that has since amended those terms.

It was inaccurate, in other words, to ascribe the CC licence to CaRT rather than BW; an example of very muddled ideas arising from ignorance. Not that anyone can be blamed for such ignorance, but presenting such a description as though it originated from knowledge is misleading.
 
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