Everything about Pershing 43/46

[Nick1150]

As the title says.....

I find a good idea to have a thread about this Italian trade mark.

Thanks to all for commenting.

 

[Sticky Fingers]

The 46 in particular is very well regarded, no personal experience but I'm sure someone will be along soon.

 

[Dogone]

I’m not left with a good impression recently. I don’t know how much is the owner or the owners the boat attracts or just bad luck, certainly something unimpressive is the owner/skipper. An 80’ Pershing came into the boatyard last week in an emergency. Water flooding the engine room and under a coast guard escort. Then placed on land proceeds to test his props, what looks like Arneson drives. BTW little kids walk around this yard unsupervised. Liquidised kids were not seen somehow. I can’t post the video, but that port prop was spinning fast and at a perfect head height for a toddler or anyone older.

 

[MapisM]

Then placed on land proceeds to test his props, what looks like Arneson drives.
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that port prop was spinning fast and at a perfect head height for a toddler or anyone older.

If you mean that they turned on the port engine and engaged the gear to spin the prop with the boat on the hard, that's the weirdest check I ever heard of.
WTF did they want and could check, other than whether the prop actually rotated or not, is something my simple mind just can't figure.
BTW, that's actually o/t, because the 43/46 were not surface prop powered boats.

 

[Dogone]

If you mean that they turned on the port engine and engaged the gear to spin the prop with the boat on the hard, that's the weirdest check I ever heard of.
WTF did they want and could check, other than whether the prop actually rotated or not, is something my simple mind just can't figure.
BTW, that's actually o/t, because the 43/46 were not surface prop powered boats.

Indeed. What’s worse, no safety banksman. None out of camera too, I assure you.

 

[Nick1150]

Can we please be more specific about the 43 and 46?

 

[Portofino]

They are great well made boats , run well and very easy to park

Plenty of sun shade as well .^

 

[Nick1150]

There wasn't enough space in the Marina?

 

[Nick1150]

Any Pershing 43 or 46 owner here?

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

If you mean that they turned on the port engine and engaged the gear to spin the prop with the boat on the hard, that's the weirdest check I ever heard of.
WTF did they want and could check, other than whether the prop actually rotated or not, is something my simple mind just can't figure.
BTW, that's actually o/t, because the 43/46 were not surface prop powered boats.

Gearbox checking I would say....

I sold over half a dozen 43s. Never a 46, as I always suggest to go for the 50 on shafts, which has a layout which works better, also because 46 is over 15 meters LOA.

The 43 is a great boat, heavy for its size something like 19 tons with Man 630s, and very dry.
Only niggle is a very long ship like turning circle and slow rudder response, although this can be improved with some methods.

They are a step above similar boats in there size and even bigger, although running expenses are as well, as they drink like 6.5 liters per nautical miles at a cruise of around 26 knots compared to the Brits which usually are at about 5 to 5.5 per nm. Excluding Sportfishers the only better planning sea boat at 13/14 meters I rode was the Cayman 43 WA.
In the Pershing you also find rough weather thinking details like a fuel decanter tank, and the engine room raw water inlets in the engine room.
They saved a 76 with those some weeks ago

 

[MapisM]

engine room raw water inlets in the engine room.

I can't recall to have ever came across a boat whose raw water intakes were NOT in the e/r, neither boats with sea chests nor plain vanilla seacocks.
Where else have you seen them, and in which boat(s)?
Just curious.

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

I can't recall to have ever came across a boat whose raw water intakes were NOT in the e/r, neither boats with sea chests nor plain vanilla seacocks.
Where else have you seen them, and in which boat(s)?
Just curious.

Ok I mean the switch valves so you pump out water from the engine room in case of water intrusion.

P don't be a Milanese Imbruttito on the first week-end of August, I am definitely sure you know what I meant!

 

[Nick1150]

So between 46 and 43, you would choose the 43, even if the price is the same?

 

[MapisM]

P don't be a Milanese Imbruttito on the first week-end of August, I am definitely sure you know what I meant!

Honest, I didn't.
Also because you mentioned that as if it were a Pershing-specific feature, while it's actually standard in all FG boats - and also several others, mine included.
No big deal anyway, as I said I only asked out of curiosity, because I would have learned something new, if you were referring to seacocks.

 

[MapisM]

So between 46 and 43, you would choose the 43, even if the price is the same?

No is my personal short answer, but I doubt that for any given boat conditions you would find a 46 without spending a bit more than the 43.
Unless for some reason you wish to stay within 15m LOA - like for registering the boat in Poland, as an example that springs to mind.

 

[PowerYachtBlog]

If two cabins are enough 43 can work. If you need and want three cabins, then 46 or 50 with shafts.

 

[roa312]

Full disclosure: I've never sailed on a Pershing, as they're quite rare in my area, but I wanted to share my thoughts.

When it comes to competitors for the Pershing 43/46/50, I think some key alternatives would be the Princess V45/V48(46)/V53, Fairline Targa 44/47/52, and Sunseeker Portofino 47/53. There are also some Azimuts and other boats that could be considered in this comparison. From my perspective, here are a few pros of the Pershings:

1. Great cabins, accommodating up to six people in the 46/50.
2. Huge bathing platforms.
3. Greater speed due to larger engines. The Pershings are equipped with MAN engines, which are often preferred over Volvo Penta on this forum. The Pershing 50 comes with surface drives, which might be less popular here compared to shaft drives.
4. Better quality, often considered a step above the British boats.

The cons in my view:

1. Limited galley space, partly due to shelves designed to conceal the galley (though this could be a pro for those who prefer not to see the galley).
2. Less cockpit floor space, which I find to be an important feature. For example, while the Pershing 46 offers great cabin space for six people, the cockpit may feel a bit cramped, especially if you're anchored for a few days.
3. Reduced visibility from the cockpit seating arrangement. Some might see this as a pro, but I’m not in that camp. That said, the Pershing 50 includes a couple of fold-up chairs next to the helm, which seems quite useful. This arrangement is similar to many Nordic boats, where it has been popular for decades.

A few things to consider during viewings or sea trials:

• Pay close attention to noise levels while underway. The Fairline Targa 47/52 are known to be quite noisy, and I think the same is true for the Princess and Sunseekers. Given that the Pershings have larger engines and GRP hardtops, there's a risk of high noise levels. I'd be very interested to hear from any current owners on this point.
• Consider whether you prefer a garage for the tender or if you can manage with it sitting on the bathing platform.
• Keep in mind that on some boats, the length of the aft sunpads might be too short, depending on your height (I'm not sure about the Pershings specifically). This is just something to think about when the broker claims that the sunpads can easily accommodate 5-6 people.

I really like the Pershing 46, and I think the aft cabin beneath the sunpad is a brilliant design. The cockpit might be a bit cramped for six people on extended stays, but you can always repurpose one of the cabins for storage (more useful/accesible than garage storage IMO). Every sportscruiser owner I've spoken to agrees that the downstairs seating arrangement is rarely used and often ends up as storage space.

Let us know your thoughts if you get a chance to view or sea trial any of these boats!

 

[Portofino]

Down stairs seating on sports cruisers is very important in the Med , as any internal space on eq FB s
Evening cool down ( and or anti mozzi zone ) with the silent in my case AC on and door shut and tv on to catch up .
A respite from 35 + degrees in a marina after a full day out .

 

[roa312]

Down stairs seating on sports cruisers is very important in the Med , as any internal space on eq FB s
Evening cool down ( and or anti mozzi zone ) with the silent in my case AC on and door shut and tv on to catch up .
A respite from 35 + degrees in a marina after a full day out .

Yeah, I should mention that all the comments in my post are from the perspective of boating in the Nordics—and of course, they're completely subjective.

OP, I only just noticed from your profile that you already have a Cranchi 41, so I'm sure you have your own views and opinions on many of the points I raised which are just for discussion anyway!

 

[Nick1150]

Hey Roa312,

Thanks for the post, which is highly appreciated.

Indeed as Portofino said, Med boating needs AC, especially in the noon-afternoon period, and it is imperative during those (few) warm nights where 40c arise...

The existence of a tender garage is something that I need to think again to be honest... it is something I both love and hate at the same time.

I will update... still on the hunt