Hurricane
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Congratulations to the both of you.
And not having teak to clean - that will save loads of time.
And not having teak to clean - that will save loads of time.
Eventually, the real deal
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Portofino
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A place to have the anchor light. (Apparently some historic IT thing about the anchor light being over the anchor, not just somewhere where it can best be seen, as done by most non IT manufacturers). If I have got this wrong, MapisM will be along to admonish and correct me shortly!
Or hang the black ball ?
Btw the A light is over the anchor on my boat too - adding weight to your theory
I think the white light on the stern comes on too with A lights only . Kinda gets round the 360 vis issue of the superstructure shielding the fwd light over the A .
Otherwise there's a risk of being arse ended in the middle of a dark night .
Sorry for the drift ,like Wightlighter I have been puzzled by the bow A light wondering how it got past RINA build codes/classification .
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Pinnacle
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I hope I am correct! To be fair and give credit where it's due, it was BartW that explained the theory to me - he has a big hoop on the bow of his Canados.
jrudge
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Someone has stolen all the bow rails !Or hang the black ball ?
Btw the A light is over the anchor on my boat too - adding weight to your theory
I think the white light on the stern comes on too with A lights only . Kinda gets round the 360 vis issue of the superstructure shielding the fwd light over the A .
Otherwise there's a risk of being arse ended in the middle of a dark night .
Sorry for the drift ,like Wightlighter I have been puzzled by the bow A light wondering how it got past RINA build codes/classification .
petem
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Yeah but when the anchor is deployed, the lights not above it. Is it?
AndieMac
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Ah yes, I was wondering where I'd seen the vertical stainless rail before, thanks for clearing that up.
AndieMac
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Congrats to Team MM on the relaunch of your fine new vessel. Plenty of adventures ahead, especially the voyage back to CF, cheers.
MapisM
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Sorry folks if I'm a bit slow in following up my own thread, but these days we are having some bloody HOT weather down here in N Adriatic, and as a consequence my days are pretty long, trying to exploit the cooler early mornings and late afternoons as much as possible, for some external bits and pieces I'm still dealing with.
Btw, I said in the past that timber boats are much better for living aboard, to the point of needing A/C very rarely: boys, how right I was.
DP boats are as close to wooden boats as plastic boats can be (plenty of solid wood in the interiors, structural wooden bulkheads, zero grp reverse mouldings anywhere onboard, etc.), but in spite of that I'm VERY glad that the A/C works much better than in my old tub, because I couldn't endure staying onboard without it.
Not saying that it would have been useless with the old tub, but she surely would have been MUCH cooler.
Anyway, I digress. Back to the point, following the order of your Qs:
@Nick_H:
yep, the KiwiGrip stuff is indeed comfortable to bare feet.
IIRC, we discussed this also in the thread I linked in my OP, but in a nutshell, believe it or not, the surface roughness is almost unnoticeable when walking on it barefoot. I suppose that's because this acrylic product never gets anywhere near as hard as two-parts epoxy resins, for instance. It remains sort of rubber-ish, instead - the drawback possibly being its durability, time will tell.
Same goes for dirt trapping: too early to tell, but the first impression is that while it does collect dirt a bit more than the usual GRP diamonds surface, it's much more easy to wash than you might think from its appearance.
@Portofino:
I know exactly how the stuff is applied, 'cause I followed the whole process.
It ain't two-pack, just a ready to use tin of acrylic, applied with its specific roller that gives the non-skid shape.
They offer three choices of rollers, with different degrees of roughness, but everybody told me that the medium one is the best, and it's what we used.
Overall, I would say that it is definitely DIY-able - and rather fast to apply, too.
The big deal in this job was the deck preparation (teak removal down to bare grp, two layers of epoxy resin, epoxy filler to smoothen the surface, polyurethane topcoat, and eventually masking before applying the KG stuff with its roller).
But the final application itself took less than half a day for the whole deck.
@petem:
never heard that Brit joke, I'm afraid you must tell me more...!
@Brainstorm:
standard cream. I assumed from the beginning that a 100% colour matching was practically impossible, so I opted for the closer colour available in their standard range - which by sheer luck, is actually very close!
Ok, when seen in flesh, the colour difference is maybe a tad more noticeable than in the pics: the cream KG is a tiny bit more yellow-ish than the original gelcoat. But the difference is definitely not relevant enough to try mixing colours (which is possible, anyway) in the hope to find a better match - with the consequence of making any possible future partial repair more tricky, btw.
@Trundlebug (and others following your hoop question):
It is true that in the good old days several IT builders used to place the allround white on top of the anchor chain, which btw is still a popular placement nowadays for daytime anchor ball.
But it definitely wasn't the reason anymore when the boat was built (2004) - in fact, if you look closely at previous pic, the allround white is visible above the disc-shaped antenna for terrestrial TV.
Otoh, many builders (and also boaters) still like having a solid handle to grab when overhanging from the bow for any reason - looking at the anchor, working with bow lines, whatever.
And I must say it's not bad also as a seatback, if you tie a big ball fender at the bow, just under the hoop, and sit on it looking back at the boat...
That said, maybe there are also other reasons I'm not aware of, or Deleted User theory is correct!
I'll ask the builder on the first occasion.
@5teve: I can't tell you how well the KG stuff can cover another existing antiskid texture - in my case, it was put on top of a specifically prepared surface, flat and smooth. But having seen its consistency and the application method, I see no reason why you shouldn't get an equally good result.
Btw, I said in the past that timber boats are much better for living aboard, to the point of needing A/C very rarely: boys, how right I was.
DP boats are as close to wooden boats as plastic boats can be (plenty of solid wood in the interiors, structural wooden bulkheads, zero grp reverse mouldings anywhere onboard, etc.), but in spite of that I'm VERY glad that the A/C works much better than in my old tub, because I couldn't endure staying onboard without it.
Not saying that it would have been useless with the old tub, but she surely would have been MUCH cooler.
Anyway, I digress. Back to the point, following the order of your Qs:
@Nick_H:
yep, the KiwiGrip stuff is indeed comfortable to bare feet.
IIRC, we discussed this also in the thread I linked in my OP, but in a nutshell, believe it or not, the surface roughness is almost unnoticeable when walking on it barefoot. I suppose that's because this acrylic product never gets anywhere near as hard as two-parts epoxy resins, for instance. It remains sort of rubber-ish, instead - the drawback possibly being its durability, time will tell.
Same goes for dirt trapping: too early to tell, but the first impression is that while it does collect dirt a bit more than the usual GRP diamonds surface, it's much more easy to wash than you might think from its appearance.
@Portofino:
I know exactly how the stuff is applied, 'cause I followed the whole process.
It ain't two-pack, just a ready to use tin of acrylic, applied with its specific roller that gives the non-skid shape.
They offer three choices of rollers, with different degrees of roughness, but everybody told me that the medium one is the best, and it's what we used.
Overall, I would say that it is definitely DIY-able - and rather fast to apply, too.
The big deal in this job was the deck preparation (teak removal down to bare grp, two layers of epoxy resin, epoxy filler to smoothen the surface, polyurethane topcoat, and eventually masking before applying the KG stuff with its roller).
But the final application itself took less than half a day for the whole deck.
@petem:
never heard that Brit joke, I'm afraid you must tell me more...!
@Brainstorm:
standard cream. I assumed from the beginning that a 100% colour matching was practically impossible, so I opted for the closer colour available in their standard range - which by sheer luck, is actually very close!
Ok, when seen in flesh, the colour difference is maybe a tad more noticeable than in the pics: the cream KG is a tiny bit more yellow-ish than the original gelcoat. But the difference is definitely not relevant enough to try mixing colours (which is possible, anyway) in the hope to find a better match - with the consequence of making any possible future partial repair more tricky, btw.
@Trundlebug (and others following your hoop question):
It is true that in the good old days several IT builders used to place the allround white on top of the anchor chain, which btw is still a popular placement nowadays for daytime anchor ball.
But it definitely wasn't the reason anymore when the boat was built (2004) - in fact, if you look closely at previous pic, the allround white is visible above the disc-shaped antenna for terrestrial TV.
Otoh, many builders (and also boaters) still like having a solid handle to grab when overhanging from the bow for any reason - looking at the anchor, working with bow lines, whatever.
And I must say it's not bad also as a seatback, if you tie a big ball fender at the bow, just under the hoop, and sit on it looking back at the boat...
That said, maybe there are also other reasons I'm not aware of, or Deleted User theory is correct!
I'll ask the builder on the first occasion.
@5teve: I can't tell you how well the KG stuff can cover another existing antiskid texture - in my case, it was put on top of a specifically prepared surface, flat and smooth. But having seen its consistency and the application method, I see no reason why you shouldn't get an equally good result.
Summer. Wine
Member
Congratulations both on a great conclusion.
MapisM
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Hi D, Kia Ora!
It's been a while... I hope that you and S are fine, and you enjoyed a great boating summer on SW.
What about jumping on a plane and join us onboard now?
I know it's a long trip, but you might take the opportunity to see also some other places...
Like for instance Lake Como, where you would be welcome to stay in our place there for as long as you wish.
All the very best, also from S!
scubaman
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Late to the thread, but congratulations, P, for having the boat back in the water! Must be a very nice feeling to get to sleep on board and start properly making it a home away from home.
That KG stuff looks like a winner.
An epic journey ahead. And on that note, there is one obvious and vital piece of equipment missing: a mavic pro for sharing it with the rest of us
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That KG stuff looks like a winner.
An epic journey ahead. And on that note, there is one obvious and vital piece of equipment missing: a mavic pro for sharing it with the rest of us
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Summer. Wine
Member
A perfect summer cruise to the Far North thanks, five weeks of good weather. Won't be up your way this year sadly, S decided retirement is not her bag just yet and has returned to a one year relieving contract, but for the opposition! We do intend to travel after that, i.e. June/July next year so may well see you then unless you are down this way for our summer. Always welcome.
MapisM
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Thanks a lot D, but we are more likely to be around Central America next winter (EU winter, I mean).
Looking fwd to having you onboard in June/July 2018, though.
Just let me know! :encouragement:
Looking fwd to having you onboard in June/July 2018, though.
Just let me know! :encouragement:
MapisM
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Naah, why bother learning how to use the thing, when I have a friend who already achieved some excellent results onboard my old tub?An epic journey ahead. And on that note, there is one obvious and vital piece of equipment missing: a mavic pro for sharing it with the rest of us
I'll need another 2 to 3 weeks before starting the journey, but after that, you'd be welcome to join us anytime!
We are thinking to take it very easy, and probably stay along the HR coast for a couple of months or so.
BartW
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Thats exactly what I would do, I'll send you my best off from last year, you might know them, but just in case.
Many congrats on the DP, I remember my first days on this forum, I admired your CDA, still am, but apreciate your choice for something faster?
TwoHooter
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Custard- spot what's missing, anybody?
MapisM
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Thanks B, we already have in our agenda a lot of places which we remember from our decade of cruising along the Croatian coast, but I will definitely appreciate any suggestions based on your much more recent experience! :encouragement:
MapisM
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LOL, yeah, I should have seen that coming!Custard
Unfortunately, Bird's Custard ain't exactly popular down here, so I thought to use another type of pretty peculiar canned food - and with all due respect for Bird's, a much better one, btw.
Pic is below, inclusive of one hand of truly yours.
Oh, and while I was at that, I thought to take the pic onboard the mother ship.
I already mentioned that the DP is actually meant to be used as a chase boat, or did I forget that?
scubaman
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Now, that would be truly epic. Would be fantastic if we'd be able to do it. Thank you for the kind invite!
TwoHooter
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Thank you for seeing the joke.
Lovely boat.
How about a race? 1,000 nm handicap in my favour of course.
Lovely boat.
How about a race? 1,000 nm handicap in my favour of course.