Estimates for work...

[Portofino]

Arranged to fly down for weekend in Nice to help chum have A/C inlet fitted to hull of Targa 37.
Job arranged for Sat morning.
.....and "the plan" is a solemn promise to blast around in the sun on the Sunday.
Owner wanted to be be onsite while job was done plus do a few fettling jobs that if the boat was in UK, would of course have been done ages before, but who wants to do jobs having flown all that distance, spent all that money on a flight and got up at some unearthly hour.....
There also always appeared to be a number of not fully justified bills awaiting in capitainerie as well
We arrive at the crack of dawn and make ourselves known to lift operator, reminding that we have arranged lift and block off months ago.
Several times during day wander round and ask lift operator ....err when ?
......soon comes the answer.

Late in the afternoon we are ashore but the hole drilling man has long ago departed.
The hole drilling man does not work Sundays.
We fly back home leaving NICE at 00.00. Nice !

There’s a predictability about that .
Should have
1- Friday haul out after checking Fr bank hols .
2- chosen a yard with engineers on site for the hole
3- choose a yard with on site shop for yard job paraphernalia,like sea cocks through the hull fittings etc

4 plan B , - Hire Car on the trip ? - your own drill and suitable bit purchased form Fr equivalent of B+Q - that’s gotta be cheaper than a re dunk and re- arrange ?

You’ve not said if your mate e- mailed yard explaining the gravitas of the lift timing re rendezvous with the fitter .
“ 3 months before “ is no good .

Another advantage of a fully functional yard is the quotes are kinda spread bet with regards the labour time .
Guys come and go , do a bit here and there working on other jobs in the yard while waiting for special tools , parts to arrive or gob to set ,or a mate if it’s a two man job .

It’s not like one guy who had to travel and then nip off in search of correct unforeseen bit , then literally wait for paint / gob to dry etc .

Charge out is €70/ hr but they actually do a fixed price quote , eg 3 hrs to remove and refitted 4 new gearbox hydraulic hoses and replace the oil with fresh .+ parts .

Like I said a guy turns up in the yard removes them - then about 2 days later another returns and refitted them and changes the oil .

At haul in one of the guys requests to come on a mini sea trail blast round the bay to check for weeps n leaks .
I tend to round up all these jobs when the boats out for a week at its annual .
Quote before hand for the planned work and if anything else unexpected happens I pop into the office and ask,they send a guy ,if it’s just a simple 10 mins ( correct tool needed) they don,t bother invoicing .

Yard has a white board in the office with the boats ( about 20 up to 100 ft ) written on ,the time of haul in , and the jobs to be done .
About a dozen engineers just get on with it after a 8 am briefing and coffee , with the manager .
Manager wonders round the yard deploying the troops .
It all gets done and they are keen to finish to get you out as another boat bit like a hotel had booked your space .

 

[petem]

Pre-season works on the boat are now complete (ashore for 3 days). I haven't had the bill yet but regarding the engineering work I can report the following...

1) Hull anode bolt loose so it looks like the engineer has had to remove hatch strut, power steering reservoir, etc to gain access to the rear bilge area to re-secure it.
2) Corroded skin fitting snapped off when they attempted to remove it, eek! ALL skin fittings and sea cocks now replaced with bronze.

Whilst ashore I also too the opportunity to have the outdrive oil checked for water. All clear, always a good sign !

Really impressed with the engineers, progress reports and photos sent to me each day. All new issues reported with accompanying photos waiting for authorisation to proceed. They were also happy to use the parts that I supplied and had previously said that if I was willing to help out it would reduce costs. All removed parts left on board for inspection.

Whilst the boat was ashore I have also had it polished. Hoping to get a second season out of the A/F - we'll see!

Pics to follow this evening.

 

[KINGFISHER 9]

Quotes are always safer than estimates​ ... if you can get them!

 

[Hurricane]

Pre-season works on the boat are now complete (ashore for 3 days). I haven't had the bill yet but regarding the engineering work I can report the following...

1) Hull anode bolt loose so it looks like the engineer has had to remove hatch strut, power steering reservoir, etc to gain access to the rear bilge area to re-secure it.
2) Corroded skin fitting snapped off when they attempted to remove it, eek! ALL skin fittings and sea cocks now replaced with bronze.

Whilst ashore I also too the opportunity to have the outdrive oil checked for water. All clear, always a good sign !

Really impressed with the engineers, progress reports and photos sent to me each day. All new issues reported with accompanying photos waiting for authorisation to proceed. They were also happy to use the parts that I supplied and had previously said that if I was willing to help out it would reduce costs. All removed parts left on board for inspection.

Whilst the boat was ashore I have also had it polished. Hoping to get a second season out of the A/F - we'll see!

Pics to follow this evening.

I assume that you went with Angel in the end.
I've not used him before but I have booked him to help later this month.
last week, a couple of us visited his workshops out of town.
New building on a new industrial site.
He has some serious engineering tools.
Huge lathes where he turns his own shafts etc.
They are the Volvo main dealer in the area.
He and his brother run 12 marine engineers out on the road - they are the third generation running the business.
He supports 150 fishing boats in the town and now us in Sant Carles Marina.

Timbad on this forum used him recently and I believe he has the same service of photos art every stage etc.

I will probably be using him a lot in the future as JW is getting to that age where she needs lots of TLC.

 

[petem]

I assume that you went with Angel in the end.
I've not used him before but I have booked him to help later this month.
last week, a couple of us visited his workshops out of town.
New building on a new industrial site.
He has some serious engineering tools.
Huge lathes where he turns his own shafts etc.
They are the Volvo main dealer in the area.
He and his brother run 12 marine engineers out on the road - they are the third generation running the business.
He supports 150 fishing boats in the town and now us in Sant Carles Marina.

Timbad on this forum used him recently and I believe he has the same service of photos art every stage etc.

I will probably be using him a lot in the future as JW is getting to that age where she needs lots of TLC.

Yes it was Tallers. I actually speak to Pau not Angel (although he is always cc'd into emails). Note that I've used them for electronics too (they repaired / re-soldered my bilge alarm circuit board when it was found to be broken).

I used Asnau for the polishing work. David thinks they've done an excellent job.

 

[petem]

I assume that you went with Angel in the end.
I've not used him before but I have booked him to help later this month.
last week, a couple of us visited his workshops out of town.
New building on a new industrial site.
He has some serious engineering tools.
Huge lathes where he turns his own shafts etc.
They are the Volvo main dealer in the area.
He and his brother run 12 marine engineers out on the road - they are the third generation running the business.
He supports 150 fishing boats in the town and now us in Sant Carles Marina.

Timbad on this forum used him recently and I believe he has the same service of photos art every stage etc.

I will probably be using him a lot in the future as JW is getting to that age where she needs lots of TLC.

I haven't been to their workshop but they have a video of it that others might find interesting...

http://www.tallerscornet.com/tc/en/video-tallers-cornet/ (gets a bit boring after the first half).

I wonder how many workshops can squeeze a Portofino 400 (I think) into a corner!

What's also great is that they are only a 5 minute drive from the marina so there's none of that £100 for travel time every time they attend the boat.

Pete

Pete

 

[Hurricane]

I haven't been to their workshop but they have a video of it that others might find interesting...

http://www.tallerscornet.com/tc/en/video-tallers-cornet/ (gets a bit boring after the first half).

I wonder how many workshops can squeeze a Portofino 400 (I think) into a corner!

What's also great is that they are only a 5 minute drive from the marina so there's none of that £100 for travel time every time they attend the boat.

Pete

Pete

You can see just how close - you can see the marina from their offices at 11:22 in the video.

I didn't know that they have that video.
It does go on a bit but it is also shows the good feeling of our little "home in the sun".

In the early part of the video, you can see the fishing boats going out to sea.
Reminds me of the "Procession of the Virgin" weekend when they go out to bless the fishing boats and we (as leisure boaters) are also invited along - we follow the fishing fleet that sails between two anchored fishing boats - one containing a statue of the Virgin Mary and one with a band playing music - flowers are scattered over the water - all done just outside the main port at the entrance to the lagoon.
After the procession, we usually then anchor up at Xiringuitos (the restaurant on stilts) and end up eating and drinking for the rest of the day.
Sorry for the thread drift.

On my trip up there last week, they showed me their pride and joy.
An engine that they take to fiestas and demonstrations.
They love it - and it works - see this video.