Ensign

[BobGiles]

ok one and all.

i have heard tell that you are alowed to fly a blue ensign if you are ex forces....does anyone know if this is true.

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[Vara]

True if you are ex forces who also happens to be a member of an organisation which is able to issue warrants.
But being ex forces on it's own does not give you any entitlement.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Bob, why have I just answered you question here when you post it on this forum as well? The answer is the same anyway!

 

[philip_stevens]

Whichever service you belonged to has its own sailing association. You will have to apply, and be seconded, to the association for a warrant to fly a blue ensign, but there are stipulations - one being boat length or size (cannot remember which), and to be SSR'ed.

The warrant is usually only valid for 5 or 6 years at a time, and when flying the blue ensign, you are obliged to fly the burgee of that association.

The RNSA (for RN and RM) is blue undefaced; the RAF is light blue with a roundal; I am not sure about the Army.

 

[Talbot]

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I am not sure about the Army.


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The army blue ensign is also defaced!

 

[Gordonmc]

The RAF SC ensign is dark blue defaced with the RAF albatross.
The RAF ensign is light blue with roundel.

 

[philip_stevens]

I stand corrected. I knew it was defaced with something but could'nt remember with what.

So it appears that the only undefaced services sailing association/club blue ensign, is the RNSA.

.....or am I wrong there??

 

[bullen]

The RAF YC is dark blue,defaced, The RAF SA is light blue,defaced. Both must be flown with a light blue burgee with roundel and the owner of yacht must have warrant.

 

[tringa]

Undeface blue

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I stand corrected. I knew it was defaced with something but could'nt remember with what.

So it appears that the only undefaced services sailing association/club blue ensign, is the RNSA.

.....or am I wrong there??

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Also the RNVR Sailing Association.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Re: Undeface blue

Sorry to be picky, but I think you mean the RNVR Yacht Club!

 

[alahol2]

Re: Undeface blue

Why would anyone wish to fly an ensign from a less senior squadron?

 

[john_morris_uk]

Re: Undeface blue

I don't understand your point? Is there any seniority involved in Sailing Associations and Yacht Clubs?

 

[alahol2]

Re: Undeface blue

The red squadron has seniority over the white and blue. Sorry, maybe slightly obscure historical point.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Re: Undeface blue

Ha ha yes I remember that now. I was into thinking about regimental seniority etc - a problem we don't have in the Senior Service! Even the Royal Marines are 1664 which is a fairly creditable age...

 

[philip_stevens]

Re: Undeface blue

As explained in the July PBO.

 

[pappaecho]

Royal Engineers Yacht Club Ensign is white, cos it was formed 5 years before the Royal Yacht Squadron, and they thought that a white ensign looked nice. Unfortunately RYS members get a bit pissed off cos they thought they were on the only ones allowed to fly it

 

[Lizzie_B]

Actually, for most now the club holds the warrant and issues permits to wear the ensign.