End-for-and lines, a little warning

[knuterikt]

I got my copy of PBO 559 April 2013 today.

In the article called 12 simple skills, 2 End-for-end your lines there is a picture with a mousing tied to a halyard soft eye (also called Reeving eye).

No mention that this type of eye is not meant to carry any load - only for help reeving the halyard.

If you end-for-end this halyard and attach the halyard shackle to the reeving eye you might have a disaster waiting to happen.

The reeving eye or soft eye is designed to go through blocks, clutches and make a niece end to the rope, not to carry any load.

 

[VicS]

I got my copy of PBO 559 April 2013 today.

In the article called 12 simple skills, 2 End-for-end your lines there is a picture with a mousing tied to a halyard soft eye (also called Reeving eye).

No mention that this type of eye is not meant to carry any load - only for help reeving the halyard.

If you end-for-end this halyard and attach the halyard shackle to the reeving eye you might have a disaster waiting to happen.

The reeving eye or soft eye is designed to go through blocks, clutches and make a niece end to the rope, not to carry any load.

Caveat lector!

 

[knuterikt]

Caveat lector!

Could you please explain

 

[nigelmercier]

Could you please explain

The main character in the book Silence of the Lambs

The reeving eye or soft eye is designed to go through blocks, clutches and make a niece end to the rope, not to carry any load.

I haven't looked at the magazine yet, but I have many soft eyes under load. Or is this a special type?

[Later] Found it: the reeving eye has no core, unlike a soft eye. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...22GKZXLAcHGQHNw&bvm=bv.43148975,d.d2k&cad=rjt

 

[philip_stevens]

Could you please explain

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[knuterikt]

The main character in the book Silence of the Lambs


I haven't looked at the magazine yet, but I have many soft eyes under load. Or is this a special type?

[Later] Found it: the reeving eye has no core, unlike a soft eye. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...22GKZXLAcHGQHNw&bvm=bv.43148975,d.d2k&cad=rjt

Yes, the names used can at best be a bit confusing, especially for me since my native tongue is Norwegian and I read both British English and US English..

To me a soft eye is an eye without a timble like this (double braid polyester splice)

or this (naked eye on a dyneema rope a brummel splice)

This is a reeving eye with a threading device (on a dyneema rope no core in the eye), this eye goes through my clutch with a tight fit. Rope 12 mm - clutch Lewmar 10-12mm. without the reeving eye it's not easy to thread this. But the strength of this eye is not the same as a dyneema core to core splice

 

[nigelmercier]

This is a reeving eye with a threading device (on a dyneema rope no core in the eye), this eye goes through my clutch with a tight fit...

I've got the same problem threading my clutches, I might give this a try. Another excuse to use my wonderful Selma Fids http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006MGDONG/dolcetto-21

 

[knuterikt]

I've got the same problem threading my clutches, I might give this a try. Another excuse to use my wonderful Selma Fids http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006MGDONG/dolcetto-21

I have improved the design of the threading needle since this picture was taken - got hold of a larger cable tie, cut of the locking part and drilled a hole for the loop.
The loop is made of thin Dyneema that is end for end spliced.

Make sure that the reeving eye is not adding bulk to the rope.
The admiral Dyneema in the picture is 12mm and make tight fit in the Lewmar D2 10-12 mm.

I have seen two (at least) ways of making the reeving eye.
This one give the strongest splice, but the wipping would add to much bulk to the rope in my case, used lock stiches instead.
http://www.neropes.com/SPL_ReevingEyeSplice.aspx The one in my picture is made like this

The "professional" variety I have seen around is made like this
- Remove the core at the end of the rope
- Make the eye by pulling the end of the cover into itself and exit the cover at the end of the core
- Lock stitch the end of the cover and the end of the core
Faster/easier to do but less strength as it relies more on on the stitching and less on friction in the rope.

 

[nigelmercier]

I got my copy of PBO 559 April 2013 today. In the article called 12 simple skills...

Having now read the article, the method used for wiring up the VHF cable is also suspect. For a start, the braid should not be trimmed until after the plug has been screwed onto the thread. I would also use some ContraLube 770 on the braid, then cover with adhesive lined heat-shrink.