Emissions, it's coming

[Medskipper]

How long before our boats will all be worthless?

It is reported in the January MBY edition that the IMO is reducing emission for super yachts. 74% lower than the outgoing value.

Ok, I know it will be quite a few years before they get around to the average leisure boat owner, but is this going to substantially de-value our beloved vessels? Will we be forced to re-engine them or throw them away?

 

[sailorman]

Any law will not be retrospective will it :nonchalance:

 

[Portofino]

Any law will not be retrospective will it :nonchalance:

That's the way I read it .
Going forwards --- from set date ----
This will mean "pre-cat" call it what you will - those before the said date will actually attract a used premium -due to less
Emmission clap trap to maintain -And or less test fee -compliance issue s to adhere to .

 

[Nigelpickin]

That's the way I read it .
Going forwards --- from set date ----
This will mean "pre-cat" call it what you will - those before the said date will actually attract a used premium -due to less
Emmission clap trap to maintain -And or less test fee -compliance issue s to adhere to .

Look at the 2 stroke outboard black market! We could be on to a winner

 

[PCUK]

All boats will need to be registered to make that work.

 

[mlines]

I reckon will be like cars, all new boats being sold will have to conform. Boats already in service will not. Importation of a used boat may fall foul as its a "new" registration but visiting boats will not.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Any law will not be retrospective will it :nonchalance:

Probably not but I can see the day when some pinko green public authority designates the area under its control as a Low Emissions Zone and bans any leisure boats which don't conform to a minimum emissions standard

 

[spannerman]

But what if you have a repower, chances are you won't be replacing like for like, you will be buying the latest technology, would that require the entire installation to meet the regs or only on new builds, a lot to be decided I think before they have any realistic chance of enforcing it. Alternatively heave out the engines and buy one of those long pole things that stick up through the roof so you can dry your washing... I 'll get my coat before I'm burned at the 'mast'.

 

[rafiki_]

I doubt this Mike. Even Red Ken, when he introduced the LLEZ applied it only to commercial and public service vehicles, not domestic.

 

[Latestarter1]

How long before our boats will all be worthless?

It is reported in the January MBY edition that the IMO is reducing emission for super yachts. 74% lower than the outgoing value.

Ok, I know it will be quite a few years before they get around to the average leisure boat owner, but is this going to substantially de-value our beloved vessels? Will we be forced to re-engine them or throw them away?

Gawd I get sick of MBY reporting on superyachts which are of little concern to us stirring everybody into a panic.

I thought I had covered this only weeks ago!

RCD 2 is due for implementation January 2017 and good news is that that it is simply EPA Tier III already law in U.S. Many engines already being sold here already Tier III.

Legislation NOT retrospective or subject to re-powers of existing vessels, yet.

Tier III requires NO after-treatment.

Continued engine emissions compliance will be responsibility of engine manufacturer NOT boat owner.

 

[oldgit]

Seem to remember the world was going to end when breath testing and seat belt legislation was announced,or perhaps it was crash helmets.
Naa.... it was definately that the the world would grind to a halt either when leaded petrol was phased out or when diesel had some bio added ?

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

I doubt this Mike. Even Red Ken, when he introduced the LLEZ applied it only to commercial and public service vehicles, not domestic.

The forthcoming ULEZ applies to all vehicles including private ones

 

[KevB]

Time to start designing an aftermarket DPF filter for boats and an AdBlue injector.

I'm taking orders now.

 

[rafiki_]

The forthcoming ULEZ applies to all vehicles including private ones

And how is this to be enforced? Clearly the Congestion Charge is enforce through the ANPR connection to DVLA, referring to the original published emissions. The LLEZ covers an area many times larger, so ANPR not appropriate. No other way of enforcing at the moment, so a non-starter imo.

Apologies for the Fred Rift.