Electric Narrow Boat article in pbo

I do not particularly like narrow boats, each to their own of course, but a narrow boat that does not donk donk donk as it goes along will spoil it! i like the sound of a simple donk donk engine. fishing boats with a cement mixer engine sound the same, very relaxing.
 
With a serial / parallel hybrid running in 100% electric mode would a donk donk sound effect module be required perhaps?
 
Davy_S said:
I do not particularly like narrow boats, each to their own of course, but a narrow boat that does not donk donk donk as it goes along will spoil it! i like the sound of a simple donk donk engine. fishing boats with a cement mixer engine sound the same, very relaxing.
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Even better if the hiss of a blowlamp is followed by Donk..........Donk...........Donk............Donk..........Plus of course enormous smoke rings from a 200mm dia exhaust.
 
I wondered why the article was published at all. There was no race, as per the title, and absolutely no data or results of the relative performance. I am at a loss at to how the electric propulsion is considered "clean" with a diesel generator humming away to power it?

Rob.
 
Sailman said:
WC/EM & AC/EM - What?

Serial Hybrid? Surely it's series hybrid or do boats have different terminology?
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Different terminology to what? Car manufacturers don't need to go into the nitty-gritty of their systems, so don't talk of series/serial/parallel, and their customers are just buying what is on offer. Boat people, on the other hand, are more practical and need to know the ins and out of their hardware.

As per the term 'serial hybrid', 'serial' is grammatically correct as in 'of or pertaining to series', and it is the term I've heard more often, but I'm not going to get hung up about grammar.
 
rob2 said:
I wondered why the article was published at all. There was no race, as per the title, and absolutely no data or results of the relative performance. I am at a loss at to how the electric propulsion is considered "clean" with a diesel generator humming away to power it?

Rob.
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I don't know which article you're looking at, but I'm only assuming that the OP means this one:-

Why I chose serial electric hybrid propulsion with lead carbon batteries for my narrow boat - Practical Boat Owner

Electric propulsion is only 'clean' when it's wholly generated from non-fossil means. 'Cleaner', maybe, as the generator does not have to be running the whole time, nor even the majority of the time, as it is supplanted by solar. One thing to note is that running a genset to power a motor is more efficient than running a standard diesel marine engine.
 
rob2 said:
I wondered why the article was published at all. There was no race, as per the title, and absolutely no data or results of the relative performance. I am at a loss at to how the electric propulsion is considered "clean" with a diesel generator humming away to power it?

Rob.
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The deceit of the Carbon Free lobby. Tesla Factory Store Uses Diesel Generators to Recharge Slow-moving Model 3 Inventory - The Truth About Cars

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Davy_S said:
i like the sound of a simple donk donk engine. fishing boats with a cement mixer engine sound the same, very relaxing.
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When I was at college, many years ago , our lecturer got very annoyed when one referred to "cement" mixers. He pointed out that they were generally either "concrete" mixers or "mortar" mixers. ie cement was only a constituent part of the final product. If one wanted to call it a cement mixer one might as well call it an "aggregate" mixer.
As a builder, I purchased different plant for producing mortar for the bricklayers or plasterers, to that used for concrete for the groundworkers. The drums were a slightly different shape. So the difference has always stuck with me.
Hence I have always tended to look upon the term "cement mixer" as a DIY term suitable for the domestic B&Q customer
 
Caraway said:
The deceit of the Carbon Free lobby. Tesla Factory Store Uses Diesel Generators to Recharge Slow-moving Model 3 Inventory - The Truth About Cars

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Thankfully, it's not all as bad as that, but until there are enough charging points connected to sufficient zero carbon generator capacity we are just taking part in a carbon and emissions displacement exercise. Until then there are no such things as a zero emission vehicles, only those whose emissions are displaced to the gas/coal fired power stations at the end of inefficient transmission grid.
 
Daydream believer said:
When I was at college, many years ago , our lecturer got very annoyed when one referred to "cement" mixers. He pointed out that they were generally either "concrete" mixers or "mortar" mixers. ie cement was only a constituent part of the final product. If one wanted to call it a cement mixer one might as well call it an "aggregate" mixer.
As a builder, I purchased different plant for producing mortar for the bricklayers or plasterers, to that used for concrete for the groundworkers. The drums were a slightly different shape. So the difference has always stuck with me.
Hence I have always tended to look upon the term "cement mixer" as a DIY term suitable for the domestic B&Q customer
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Quick, lads, the thread ran off in that direction; after it!
 
HissyFit said:
Different terminology to what? Car manufacturers don't need to go into the nitty-gritty of their systems, so don't talk of series/serial/parallel, and their customers are just buying what is on offer. Boat people, on the other hand, are more practical and need to know the ins and out of their hardware.

As per the term 'serial hybrid', 'serial' is grammatically correct as in 'of or pertaining to series', and it is the term I've heard more often, but I'm not going to get hung up about grammar.
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All the boat stuff makers say series hybrid or parallel hybrid. In the electrical world it's series or parallel for some reason, no other option is acceptable. Anyone saying serial & not series in this context is usually run out of town on a donkey rightly or wrongly.
 
Sailman said:
All the boat stuff makers say series hybrid or parallel hybrid. In the electrical world it's series or parallel for some reason, no other option is acceptable. Anyone saying serial & not series in this context is usually run out of town on a donkey rightly or wrongly.
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In the electrical world, series and parallel are usually used to indicate the way in which items (usually batteries) are connected.

In the world of electric boat propulsion, you can have a diesel engine with an electric motor on the same shaft (called "parallel"). A simpler system, called "serial" has an electric motor powered by a source of electricity, perhaps a big battery bank, but usually also a diesel-powered generator.

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