Eastern Adriatic - Croatia and more

Palarran said:
We are having friends fly into Split and planned on going onto the seawall of the castle in Trogir. Have you seen anyone allowed to moor up there? I can always anchor if need be.
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I have just had an ice cream looking at this very spot! Now that many of the tripper boats have gone, there is certainly space. There is water and electricity. At present there are no yachts tied up there. There would be no space on a Friday night when the tripper boats all come back to change over guests.

The main disadvantage is that you are right in front of the promenade and restaurants. Hundreds of people are walking past constantly. SWMBO has vetoed our staying there for this reason

TudorSailor
 
tudorsailor said:
The Alternative is Yacht Club Seget http://www.cromarina.com/3790--~en~yachtclub_seget~yachtclub_seget.html

It is new and listed in the cruising books as "soon to open" It is a fully functioning brand new marina with lots of space for visitors

TudorSailor
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Yes it is a fully functioning marina with lots of visitor space but we called in last year and were charged in excess of €100/night for a 17m mooring which is very steep for a new marina and more than we've paid in ACI marinas. Its also quite a hike to the restaurants and attractions in Trogir and there didn't seem to be much else around the marina itself. We ate in the marina restaurant which has great views but was very average and the service was poor. There is a pool though. There is also plenty of hardstanding and a big hoist so a good for a haul out. Overall I thought it was more suited to long term berthing rather than visitor berthing. Certainly it is a short taxi ride from the airport and the cruising attractions of the area are right on the doorstep. Btw, if you are looking for long term berthing in the area, I am now told that there are discounts to be had on the advertised rates if play off one marina against another
 
All of what you say is correct. However, if you have planned crew exchange/transfer on a Saturday morning from Spit, like we have, there is no space at ACI Trogir or on the quay. However, as this is a new marina, there is still lots of space - even when their charter fleets all return. That was what I wanted to point out, as the cruising guides only mention the marina briefly as if there are no transient berths

TudorSailor
www.zebahdy.blogspot.com
 
Palarran said:
We are having friends fly into Split and planned on going onto the seawall of the castle in Trogir. Have you seen anyone allowed to moor up there? I can always anchor if need be.
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Last year we anchored overnight right alongside the airport. It's 10 minutes walk to the arrivals or departures area and you can sit on the boat and watch the flight coming in and then leave as the flight lands. By the time you get to the airport your friends will be just walking through the door from air-side.

The holding is a bit iffy, (even with a Rocna!), so I probably wouldn't attempt it if bad weather is forecast.

Richard
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I know we would be in a fishbowl on the quay but IMO it would be a real treat.

When you guys are anchoring in the small bays in the islands, how deep is it usually? Are you dropping in 30' and backing up to tie off on shore? How much chain do you usually have to let out?
 
Palarran said:
When you guys are anchoring in the small bays in the islands, how deep is it usually? Are you dropping in 30' and backing up to tie off on shore? How much chain do you usually have to let out?
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Depends where you are. We have anchored in anything from 5m (15ft approx) to 30m (90ft approx) and I try to let out at least 3 x depth of chain because often the holding is poor in a stony/rocky seabed although the holding can be better further north in the island chain where some anchorages have clay/mud seabeds. In the more popular anchorages, taking lines ashore is common, in which case you're probably dropping the anchor in less than 10m of water. Personally, with lines taken ashore, I try to let out 4x or 5x depth because the wind direction can change and we are a motorboat with a lot of windage. When taking lines ashore be aware that sea urchins are common just below the waterline on rocky shores so wear swimming shoes (which can be bought pretty much everywhere for a few Euros).
There are also many bays in Croatia with mooring buoys either operated by local communities, national park authorities or private operators, all of whom will charge you. Personally I dont object too much to this but some other boaters do. There are also private quays in many bays operated by restaurants where you can tie up free providing you eat dinner.
 
Palarran said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I know we would be in a fishbowl on the quay but IMO it would be a real treat.
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Just re-read the cruising guide and the quay is meant for yachts bigger than 25m

I have just berthed in the ACI Trogir. Cost is €86 for a night 14.9m May 2013. Really nice marineros. Same price as Seget Yacht Club but more protected and nicer view

TudorSailor
www.zebahdy.blogspot.com
 
Thanks Mike,
I don't have any problem paying a few bucks for a mooring bouy. My usual problem is they are not designed for a 56' long by 26' wide catamaran and I simply don't have enough room. So, anchoring is our standard. I was just wondering what to expect. I've never anchored where the seabed sloped dramatically away from the shore and stern tied to shore. Sounds like the bottoms are relativly shallow.

Tudorsailor,
I've read the pilot book also and agree. But about every picture I pull up of the quay has a smaller boat on it so I'm still hoping.
 
Palarran said:
Thanks Mike,

Tudorsailor,
I've read the pilot book also and agree. But about every picture I pull up of the quay has a smaller boat on it so I'm still hoping.
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Just been out for a run and had a look the quay. There are some normal sized yachts tied up there. I would suggest getting in early afternoon after the charterers have gone and before the next lot arrive around 5pm

PM me if I can help more

I am updating cruiserwiki as I go

TudorSailor
 
Palarran said:
Tudorsailor,
I've read the pilot book also and agree. But about every picture I pull up of the quay has a smaller boat on it so I'm still hoping.
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Dear Palarran

Before leaving we had to go to the harbour office. I then asked - on your behalf - about mooring up to the town quay. I was directed to the man who controlled this. He said that small boats can only moor up if a big boat with a reservation then does not turn up. Not cheap. 600 kunas for a 15m which the same as the marina. So I would not assume you can get on the quay. If you cannot the choice is ACI marina, Seget Yacht Club or anchor

Hope that this helps

TurdorSailor
 
tudorsailor said:
Just been out for a run and had a look the quay. There are some normal sized yachts tied up there. I would suggest getting in early afternoon after the charterers have gone and before the next lot arrive around 5pm
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We parked on the town quay a couple of seasons ago and we just rolled up in the afternoon but it was October. I got the impression that in high season, berthing on the town quay is strictly controlled but out of season, you could probably berth there without pre booking and without having to be a 200ft superyacht
 
Visit Mali Losinj and ignore the Pilot books

We continue to head north and decided to visit mali Losinj on the island of Otok Losinj. According to both the Imray Pilot and 777 anchorages, the yacht club in the town is not functioning. The books say use one or other of the marinas next to the ship yard. We motored into the town and saw masts. We tried phoning and calling on the VHF, without a response. As we got closer a man waved to us to direct us to a berth. In fact there are several dock men who spend the afternoon guiding yachts in and helping with lines.

The Yacht Club has space for over 100 yachts. The pontoons are new with laid lines, electricity and water. 505 kunas for 14.9m in June 2013.

The Yacht Club is a fantastic location in the heart of the pretty town. The other two marinas are awful in comparison and to be avoided

Hope that this helps someone. I have updated the Cruisers Wiki

Pictures on my blog www.zebahdy.blogspot.com

TS
 
Another tip regarding crew changes in Croatia

Try and avoid changing or picking up crew on a Saturday. Crew changes usually mean going to a marina for a night or two. Almost all charters start and end on Saturday so the boats all return on Friday night. This means that all marinas near airports are full and it can be difficult to find a space. In addition the airports are overloaded on Saturdays and all the package tours start and finish on a Saturday.

Next year we will do our changes on a Sunday or midweek. Next year we will plan to get to the places that are usually full of charter boats (Krka Falls) on a Saturday

TudorSailor
 
tudorsailor said:
Another tip regarding crew changes in Croatia

Try and avoid changing or picking up crew on a Saturday. Crew changes usually mean going to a marina for a night or two. Almost all charters start and end on Saturday so the boats all return on Friday night. This means that all marinas near airports are full and it can be difficult to find a space. In addition the airports are overloaded on Saturdays and all the package tours start and finish on a Saturday.

Next year we will do our changes on a Sunday or midweek. Next year we will plan to get to the places that are usually full of charter boats (Krka Falls) on a Saturday

TudorSailor
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Agree with that. We avoid any spots that are within a day's sail of Kastela on a Friday or Sunday night too. Another tip is to avoid trying to fill up with fuel on Friday afternoon as all the charter boats are filling up before returning to base. Yes agree also that Split airport is a more restful place midweek rather than Saturday
 
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