EA Ramping Up Registration Enforcement

[Brayman]

The whole issue is quite clear - you have to pay.

Please get over it and accept that laws change. The organisation empowered to regulate the river has made it clear how they will enforce it, they've even gone as far as to seek legal advice (wasting money that could be spent on service delivery) to give a clear position for people who are unsure.

If you don't want to pay then don't pay, but you should expect that the ONLY way you can resolve this is to go to court and thrash it out there.

No amount of protestation on forums, websites, in the pub, or the marina bar will ever resolve this.

CJL

De Ja vu again

 

[Flynnbarr]

The original title of the thread is 'EA ramping up registration enforcement'.
No they are not,they are going into marinas where there is a paper trail to the owners.there will still be the same unlicensed boats riverside as there always is because this means proper work and investigation which it seems the EA cannot or will not bother with.
TT-WO,keep poking the nest, I didn't know and I suspect others don't know about the BMF and boat sales,is this true?

CJL, 'the organisation empowered to regulate the river' is not very well liked,not the people we see day to day but the organisation.faceless numpties who haven't a clue and don't listen to people who have worked and operated on the river for generations,ask Johnny pleace about dredging,ask toughs or Turks about huge ribs for catching people without a fishing permit.
In a meeting with the EA a certain commercial operator told the EA to just go away 'you haven't a clue what you are doing'.

And breathe,rant over,it's bin a **** weekend for boats,rain,grrr

 

[boatone]

a limited income retired women(sic) living on her boat in a marina.

Strange example to choose - I wonder how many of those there are compared to motor boat owners that simply don't want to pay? Could always remove the engine and become an unpowered craft, they only cost £35 regardless of size ! After all, if they've no intention of leaving the marina they won't need the engine, will they?

 

[boatone]

TT-WO,keep poking the nest....

Poke away - but please poke the right nest(s). This thread has now attracted almost 3,700 views - not because its particularly interesting but because, as always, its developed into a spat which is serving no useful purpose and turning some away from this forum.

The people you need to "get at" are in the ivory towers of No. 10, Westminster, Defra and the EA, not on this forum.

 

[534l4rk]

Poke away - but please poke the right nest(s). This thread has now attracted almost 3,700 views - not because its particularly interesting but because, as always, its developed into a spat which is serving no useful purpose and turning some away from this forum.

The people you need to "get at" are in the ivory towers of No. 10, Westminster, Defra and the EA, not on this forum.

I am afraid I do not agree with your comments. I posted 2 years ago that I thought that many forum readers did not appreciate what TT_WO was getting at and that attempts to ridicule him served no useful purpose. Indeed it would appear to me that he has already 'been at' the people in the ivory towers which is why you have the detail which has now been posted on the forum.

 

[CJL]

I am afraid I do not agree with your comments. I posted 2 years ago that I thought that many forum readers did not appreciate what TT_WO was getting at and that attempts to ridicule him served no useful purpose. Indeed it would appear to me that he has already 'been at' the people in the ivory towers which is why you have the detail which has now been posted on the forum.

Yawn - We fully understand your position but you need to take it up using the appropriate channels.

Challenge it in Court, write to your MP, complain to the EA, get your own QC's opinion or seek a judicial review - just remember that posting here wont resolve it. I do respect your position and everybody loves the underdog when they win but its frustrating that you seem to do nothing to further your argument using any of these options open to you.

Consequently we just keep going over the same ground time and time again.

CJL

 

[oldgit]

Would it be preferable if the actual parties who believe they are suffering this perceived injustice could make there own case,rather than having their cause put forward by a third party.
The circumstances of the actual complainants remain such a mystery, that one begins to doubt their actual existence ?

 

[Thamesmariner]

Are marina owned boats used for moving craft, ferrying owners about etc exempt from registration and BSS ? I only ask because such boats in my marina do not appear to have a licence.

 

[boatone]

Are marina owned boats used for moving craft, ferrying owners about etc exempt from registration and BSS ? I only ask because such boats in my marina do not appear to have a licence.

I believe they should be licenced - I think you will find EA launches also have licence plates. Boats on brokerage that are strictly under the control of Thames based brokers - i.e. moored on a brokerage site and the owners are not permitted to use them - may be exempt if the broker has applied for exemption under Section 4(3).