E-Borders ditched?

[Major Catastrophe]

You seem to have overlooked that the Aussies have a similar system to e borders which requires Immigration to be given 48 hours notice of arrival from overseas.

I flew to Australia thirteen months ago tomorrow and arrived in Sydney 37 hours after buying my ticket.

Was met with the usual G'day.

With UK eBorders, in future you have to book 24 hours before they will even allow you to fly.

 

[timbartlett]

Anyway, after all these assertions that the ER borders system is illegal, what odds will you give me that the system contiues in much the same form as proposed, and that no-one takes them to court and proves that it is illegal.

I should think it is almost certain that if they continue in the face of the Select Committee report, then they will find it up for judicial review.

It's highly unlikely that the Parliamentary select committee would have gone to all the trouble of saying that it was illegal unless they had some basis for doing so.

And if UKBA really had checked (like they said they had) and really had received confirmation that it was OK (like they said they had) wouldn't they have simply produced the letter of confirmation?

I think the fact that UKBA pretended to have received confirmation of its legality when they hadn't is a strong indicator (maybe not incontovertible proof, but certainly a strong indicator) that they never asked for confirmation because they knew they wouldn't get it.

 

[cambscot]

Drawing parallels with Australia is flawed. Australia isn't part of the EU, and doesn't have the same freedom of movement that EU member states should be offering each other.

There's so many instances where the EU is blamed for the erosion of our civil liberties, when it is , in fact, our government that's doing the most eroding. Where everywhere else in the EU applies guidelines and recommendations with the healthy dose of localised common sense, the UK applied the letter of the law, and completely misses the spirit of the law.

I'm glad the EU have, in this case, stepped in and demonstrated that they aren't the bureaucratic nightmare that we're encouraged to believe.

 

[Sinc]

Still seems very debatable whether or not the unworkabl3e sytem for pleasure boats will be implemented or not.
In the report it says that e-borders need to demonstrate legality by Feb 2010 - but to whom and what happens if they don't? the Committee seems to have no actual power to enforce its recommendations.

 

[dulcibella]

The Mail has it right??

Ah - hadn't seen that - assuming the Mail has it right it looks very promising - never thought I'd support interference by Brussels Bureaucrats.

The Mail always has it right - the further Right, the more the Mail likes it.

 

[binch]

1945

Not many of you will recall Churchill's election address in 1945. He predicted that under a socialist government, Britain would become a police state with our own gestapo.
Everybody laughed. "The poor old boy's gone ga-ga" etc etc.
Churchill had a good record for predicting disasters.
Did he get it right that time?