Heckler
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Dylan Winter
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ctva
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Pretty well my recollection of the events. About that time when he was ‘freeloading’ in Kip Marina, he gave a talk at the Scottish Boat Show about sailing on a shoestring. I was really looking forward to it and meeting him but as others have said it was basically, “I got this free” and “this free too” and “my website with videos for sale”. Very disappointing. Needless to say, I didn’t bother speaking to him after as he came across as another of the common theses days, fund my lifestyle but without an engaging product “him and his story” to sell.
Looking forward to your blog.:encouragement:
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JumbleDuck
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I thought there was a certain irony in his talk on budget sailing being followed by endless complaints that keeping his boat in the most expensive marina on the Clyde and commuting up to her every fortnight was working out a bit expensive. As I recall, he was narked that Kip wouldn't give him a discount for favourable reviews.
stu9000
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It takes a lot of work to shoot and edit all that for footage. Many many people enjoyed the high quality media Dylan put out and very few helped him to keep it going. Youtube has many high profile content providers that have expressed frustration at the lack of support for creators. Dylans frustration at not being able to achieve his goals seemed honest to me, especially in comparison to those semi pro glossy channels that pretend the camera just happened to be there.
Maybe it was a turn off.
Maybe it wasn't good strategy and perhaps I would not have done it that way.
But it was honest and transparent.
I hope he gets the Fisher and would love to see him do the rest of Scotland and the west coast of England.
Maybe it was a turn off.
Maybe it wasn't good strategy and perhaps I would not have done it that way.
But it was honest and transparent.
I hope he gets the Fisher and would love to see him do the rest of Scotland and the west coast of England.
JumbleDuck
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The sad truth is that very few people thought it was good enough to be worth paying for. The market is a tough place. Hurling insults at potential customers - seagull owners, motorboaters, Scots - probably wasn't the smartest marketing strategy either, and sticking his own copyright notice on the work of others was unwise.
vyv_cox
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I became very cheesed off at offering advice that was neither acknowledged nor taken. Then he had an engine installed by two land rover mechanics who clearly knew little about boats. So his gearbox failed. Again, advice offered but not taken. So I never responded to his many posts again.
Davy_S
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It would be a first for Fisher as well! 30 or 34 they make, unless someone knows different.
JumbleDuck
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It would be a first for Fisher as well! 30 or 34 they make, unless someone knows different.
Good point, well made. Oops. It's a Fisher 34 I want - I dream of staring smugly out at the Scottish rain, warm in my short sleeves, mug of cocoa at my elbow and windscreen wipers beating a pleasant counterpoint to the throb of the reliable thumper of a diesel engine somewhere below. Ahh ......
KINGFISHER 9
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Quite!
rogerthebodger
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Kelpie
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I thoroughly enjoyed his videos and they remain the only Youtube offering that I have made a contribution to. But he lost me when he started slagging off other Vloggers like Delos and describing them as vacuous eye candy.
ghostlymoron
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I put up a video on YouTube. It has received 9.8k hits in 8yrs so I won't be persuing it as a career. Several viewers found it useful but I never received and income. It takes quite a lot of effort to do so full marks to those who take the trouble.
mlines
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Looking at my analytics, it says I could have earnt $190 since I joined in 2013, you can also see the time in 2018 that they turned off the ability for small users to earn anything at all. So since then all ad revenue stays with Youtube which is what is annoying the smaller users. Doesnt worry me as they seemed to make it impossible to claim anything even in the earlier days as there was always a reason why it was never paid.
Impaler
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I like his stuff, especially his Moray Firth trips. I sail from Lossiemouth and they've been very helpful. I chip in a few quid because I think it's good value. What's wrong with having the odd rant or piss-take? Who has never ranted or taken the piss in their life? I fear some people take offence rather easily these days.
JumbleDuck
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It's bad marketing, particularly when one shows extraordinary sensitivity to criticism oneself. I doubt if anyone was induced to pay towards Mr Winter's family holidays (he wanted a boat big enough for himself, his wife, their two adult sons and the family dog) by being called a "refusenik".
Of course maybe he was just ahead of his time. Anyone starting now would probably brand themselves an "influencer" and use Gofundme to gather the funds. As far as I can tell, the main qualification for being an influencer is a complete absence of shame and demanding money from followers is as much part of their modus operandi as it is for televangelists.
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We all enjoy a good rant but never rant in public about the 'hand that feeds' us or in Dylan's case supplies our boats.
Anybody fancy chipping in a few pounds for a Hydrovane I want for my next family holiday?
Tomaret
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I’ve chipped in for Dylan’s videos a few times because I enjoy watching them, and I’m set up to pay something to Leo for the Tally Ho videos each time they are published, because I’m in awe of what he’s doing and his ability to do it and make interesting videos; what are you offering?
Caer Urfa
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Totally agree as I certainly would not put Dylan Thomas in the same class as Leo who is re-building Tally Ho, watching Leo is like watching master class, yes I also watched some of Dylan's video's yes entertaining but but he was no craftsman or anywhere near as good a yachtsman
JumbleDuck
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Does Leo sail on the sloeblack, slow, black, crowblack, fishingboat-bobbing sea?
steveeasy
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Sod it, I wanted this thread to go away. lots and lots of people were quite happy to fund keepturning left and that was fine. I liked his films but could not tap as funds were tight then. still are now, will be so in the future.
you tread a fine line. Dylan told us he was broke. and a lot more. at the same time as this was moving in to a lovelly house. to some its ok, to others, they see it different.
No ones perfect.
Steveeasy
you tread a fine line. Dylan told us he was broke. and a lot more. at the same time as this was moving in to a lovelly house. to some its ok, to others, they see it different.
No ones perfect.
Steveeasy