Dutch trimaran story in Yachting Monthly.

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Anybody read this?It was in the "Summer addition",I read it yesterday in the Library.

It is absolutely bloody appalling!:mad:

Hopefully somebody can provide a link to it because I think it deserves serious coverage.I don't know how to do it myself.

Thanks in anticipation.
 
If you are talking about the Telstar trimaran that was run aground in Kent then the whole subject was done to death on here at the time.
 
Tranona said:
If you are talking about the Telstar trimaran that was run aground in Kent then the whole subject was done to death on here at the time.
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OK sorry I missed it.I ran a search to try & find out if something had been posted here but "Dutch trimaran" found nothing significant.

Was it a case of appalling jobsworths which is what I concluded? If I am right I hope the miserable *******s have been well & truly put in their place.
 
Nicholas123 said:
OK sorry I missed it.I ran a search to try & find out if something had been posted here but "Dutch trimaran" found nothing significant.

Was it a case of appalling jobsworths which is what I concluded? If I am right I hope the miserable *******s have been well & truly put in their place.
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No. As always there is two (or more) sides to the story. Although the coastguard and the council were probably a bit heavy handed, they believed they were acting correctly in the circumstances as they saw them. Obviously not everybody, particularly the person who sold the boat and helped the new owner, agreed with their actions.

Damned if you do---damned if you don't.
 
Tranona said:
No. As always there is two (or more) sides to the story. Although the coastguard and the council were probably a bit heavy handed, they believed they were acting correctly in the circumstances as they saw them. Obviously not everybody, particularly the person who sold the boat and helped the new owner, agreed with their actions.

Damned if you do---damned if you don't.
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Hard to see how that trimaran was doing any harm on what looked like a perfect beach to beach that trimaran for repairs.Bloody brain dead jobsworths restricting our freedoms (just my own opinion of coarse).
Now at least I feel better for that :)
 
Nicholas123 said:
Hard to see how that trimaran was doing any harm on what looked like a perfect beach to beach that trimaran for repairs.Bloody brain dead jobsworths restricting our freedoms (just my own opinion of coarse).
Now at least I feel better for that :)
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Then perhaps you should read the reasons given by the officials (who were actually there and have responsibility) before coming to a conclusion that suits your prejudice rather than the facts.
 
Nicholas123 said:
I read the facts as portrayed in the Yachting Monthly so maybe that was a biased unfit bit of journalism?
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Yes, you could say that, conflated a complicated story into a short item. What did seem odd was the way they seem to have treated the Dutch sailor. However, seems clear that the boat was not in a safe place and there were real concerns that it could break up or be vandalised. The criticism of officials is usually that they do not take action to safeguard a boat that is washed ashore. They had the legal right to take the action that they did, but as ever exercising that right requires judgement. So as I said, damned if they do and damned if they don't.
 
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However, seems clear that the boat was not in a safe place and there were real concerns that it could break up or be vandalised.
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This is the bit I don't understand.That beach looked like a perfect place to beach the boat in the picture that accompanied the article & I got the impression that the repairs were minor with the owner staying on board.What's the problem?
I would have thought local kids would be tickled to play around the boat chatting to the owner & the locals would be helpful,I just don't get it.
 
Nicholas123 said:
This is the bit I don't understand.That beach looked like a perfect place to beach the boat in the picture that accompanied the article & I got the impression that the repairs were minor with the owner staying on board.What's the problem?
I would have thought local kids would be tickled to play around the boat chatting to the owner & the locals would be helpful,I just don't get it.
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The capabilities of folk to revert to the wrecking mentality at the sight of a boat washed up on a beach is astonishing.
 
Nicholas123 said:
This is the bit I don't understand.That beach looked like a perfect place to beach the boat in the picture that accompanied the article & I got the impression that the repairs were minor with the owner staying on board.What's the problem?
I would have thought local kids would be tickled to play around the boat chatting to the owner & the locals would be helpful,I just don't get it.
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The council and the coastguard responsible for the beach thought otherwise. It is hardly surprising that not everybody has the same view. Parking a damaged unseaworthy boat on an exposed beach is not an everyday event.

Imagine the Daily Wail headlines if things had turned out differently " Coastguard does nothing while lone sailor's dream boat is smashed to pieces..."
 
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They (officials) had the legal right to take the action that they did
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We're told:

"5. The police forced him to abandon his boat on the beach and took him to a hotel against his will."

If that's true I'm not aware that the police have powers to take someone to a hotel against their will. Maybe you can enlighten us with the specific powers?

Also was the prohibition notice valid? (If it wasn't we're told in the other thread that there's a process to get compensation where an invalid prohibition notice is made: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga...g/improvement-notices-and-prohibition-notices)

So I don't think it's remotely clear that the officials had the right to take the reported action. I don't think a couple of second hand reports on a forum and a report in a mag is enough information for us to decide one way or the other.
 
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Tranona said:
The council and the coastguard responsible for the beach thought otherwise. It is hardly surprising that not everybody has the same view. Parking a damaged unseaworthy boat on an exposed beach is not an everyday event.

Imagine the Daily Wail headlines if things had turned out differently " Coastguard does nothing while lone sailor's dream boat is smashed to pieces..."
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I still hav'nt seen any real evidence that he was doing anything harmful whatsoever.This seems like the authorities intervening in a high handed dictatorial manner.
Was'nt that effectively the outcome after they intervened?Where is the Daily Mail when you need it!:rolleyes:
 
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While he was there he was in a position to prevent that,when they marched him away against his will was'nt that exactly what happened? Seems to me that the authorities made that inevitable & acted very irresponsibly.
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I met a chap a few years back who ran his boat ashore near the Lizard. His being present wasn't enough to stop folk from wandering down and loading his stuff into their cars.
 
Now, if he'd parked a caravan on the beach and decided to leave all his rubbish lying around and sh8t on the sands, I'm sure the authorities would have been terrified to have gone within a mile of him, for fear of being accused of breaching his human rights ...........
 
Nicholas123 said:
Anybody read this?It was in the "Summer addition",I read it yesterday in the Library.

It is absolutely bloody appalling!:mad:

Hopefully somebody can provide a link to it because I think it deserves serious coverage.I don't know how to do it myself.

Thanks in anticipation.
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There is a thread somewhere on one of the forums re this boat, including the chap who sold the boat, and one or two forum member's help salvage it, they are not happy people.

This it

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?361771-Beached-trimaran-can-you-believe-what-happened

Brian
 
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