Dutch rivers and canals

Thanks you guys - this is great and my confidence in doing an Amsterdam-Rotterdam run in a weekend is increasing! :)

On the Gouda railway bridge site I get the impression that the bridge has 6m clearance - so I could just pass through it any time given than I'm 5m only?
 
According to the 2013 Wateralmanak ( No 2) Gouda Railway bridge has a clearance of 7 meters

Opening times are weekdays 6 times , Saturdays 8 times & Sundays 6 times. But you will clear the bridge anyway - so don`t worry.

I`m going through Gouda tomorrow & then to Haarlem later in the week - done it loads of times, the `convoy` system works well and we have been through all the bridges on our own if it`s a quiet time - the Dutch are quite laid back about waiting for a convoy & they try not to keep you waiting for long.

I`ve been liveaboard for the last 7 years & know the area

Need any help just email me

mikeonodessa@hotmail.co.uk
 
No real convoys via Haarlem, the only prob is lunch times through the City

I think the 2h opening @ Gouda are wrong. Once a day as Viv stated

When i last did it the bridge at Gouda opened 3 times a day. I missed the 13-00 as it was closing but it opened at 18-10
But a mbo can go under . I have done Harlem as a convoy & single i think it depends on amount of boat traffic
The hold up is the rail bridge on the north just after the toll point
 
Gouda bridge is 7 mtrs, the low one was removed and replaced at 7 mtrs some years ago.

The bridge to watch out for is Alphen rail bridge which use to shut sat about 6 but the full details are available on the chart down load site

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At gouda outskirts is also 4.9 mtr and shuts at 6 saturdays


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However the night convoy from amsterdam is well past before 10 if i remember correctly.
 
Ijmuiden to Rotterdam via Leiden might be the shortest way (93kms), via Gouda a bit longer (101kms) but PC-Navigo reckons via the Amsterdam-Rijn canal to Utrecht, into the IJssel river and then onto the Lek is quickest (125kms) and I would probably agree. With your time constraints I would go this way. We could have navigated more than adequately with just the Almanac II and relevant ANWB charts.
 
Ijmuiden to Rotterdam via Leiden might be the shortest way (93kms), via Gouda a bit longer (101kms) but PC-Navigo reckons via the Amsterdam-Rijn canal to Utrecht, into the IJssel river and then onto the Lek is quickest (125kms) and I would probably agree. With your time constraints I would go this way. We could have navigated more than adequately with just the Almanac II and relevant ANWB charts.
you are probably correct as to time, but the Rijn canal is usually uncomfortable due to reflected wash and has a heavy barge traffic. Large lock complex at the end. Unless it has changed, yachts are put in the back of the lock, when there is a lot of commercial traffic. plenty of head room though, 9.8 mtr from memory
 
Ok guys, thanks for all your help so far. I have bought the recommended Wateratlas, Wateralmanak and the Imray guide and I have planned my route from Amsterdam to Rotterdam. I'll go via Haarlem, Sassenheim, Oude Woutering and Gouda. I have checked height and opening hours of every bridge and lock on my route and thanks to the books I feel comfortable that my planning is good. I have two questions, however, that I hope you can help me with:

1) Height: By collapsing mast, bimini and vhf antennas I can reduce my total height from the waterline to 4m. Many bridges are lower and I'll just wait for them to open, but amongst those that are higher the lowest will be 4.3m - is a 30cm margin safe? I guess there can be small variations in water levels and a bit of waves from passing ships can make me bob a up and down a bit - should I go for a bigger margin? I really don't want to lose my flybridge windscreen! :)
2) Operating hours: Since I'll only be able to leave Amsterdam around 10.00, I'm worried that I may not make it past the last bridges before Gouda (Hefbrug te Boskoop/663, Hefbrug te Waddinxveen/664 and Coenecoopbrug/665) before 18.00. The almanak states Saturday operating hours until 18.00 - however the Imray guides states that in Jun-Jul-Aug the bridges are operated until 20.00 - which is the right version? Should the ending times - whichever are the correct ones - be considered final or can I call up by VHF for a special favour to get them opened a bit past hours? Once I'm past these three bridges I'm practically in Gouda where I may then spend the night, or press on towards Rotterdam.
3) If I run out of time around 18.00 (which seems to be the end of operating hours for most bridges on Saturdays) and get stuck somewhere between two bridges, can I just moor along the side of the canal and spend the night? I guess I won't have much choice but if I'll get authorities on my back I'll rather play it safer and moor somewhere authorized earlier.
4) Once I reach Gouda the rest of the route to Rotterdam is pretty open and should be easy, so my target is to make it to Gouda on Saturday. Is it realistic to make it by 18.00? And can anybody recommend a nice spot to moor for the night in Gouda? Will I have to go to a marina or can I moor along the canal just for the night?
5) Are there any restrictions for night-time navigation on the canals (apart from bridges and locks)? I assume the same rules apply for navigation/steaming lights?

Sorry for the newbie questions, but I have to start somewhere and while the almanaks are helpful, you guys on this forum are invaluable! Thanks in advance.
 
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Thanks for all the tips. There are many sites on the Standing Mast routes and a lot of information but I have not found one consolidated guide that properly explains bridges, locks and convoys, and many of the sites that are referred to seem to be in Dutch only.

Basically, my boat is in Amsterdam and on Saturday 30/8 I have to take her to Rotterdam with latest arrival in Rotterdam at 11.00 on Sunday 31/8 - so I have about 24 hrs to do it. I can collapse the little mast on my Grand Banks such that my height doesn't exceed 5m. What is the best route for me to take, and can it be done safely without risk of delay? I don't want to risk getting stuck somewhere behind a bridge with clearance less than 5m that only opens once a day only to miss my arrival deadline (which is firm, I'll have flights to catch).

My fallback is to just go to Rotterdam along the coast but that'll make me more exposed to the weather + it would be less fun! :)

I hope to get some advice here so that I can start my planning. Thanks in advance!


We live on a sailing yacht in Amsterdam and before that in Rotterdam so we make that route often.Before I tell you wich route that might be the best to take I need to point out that if you have a time limit the canals might not be the best option. Often it runs smoothly but with all bridges, commercial traffic and maintanance of the waterways there will be somewhere that you probably have to spend the night. It has happen to us many times and the longest we had to wait between two bridges that did not function was 4 days.

Rijncanal( as described before) takes you there in a day(if all goes well) but it is boring and nothing to see.
If you decide to go to Gouda there are plenty of small Jachthavens( marinas) along the way to overnight in as well.
This way is with no doubt the most nice way to go. You could probably do it in 24 hours. Good luck it is a gamble. :)

We cannot go Rijncanal with our sailing yacht but you have no problem to go there.
Every time we have to be in Rotterdam or in Amsterdam( depending wich directon of course) on time we always take the North Sea.
If you pick your tides right you do it in 8 hours. No bridges and locks except the one in Ijmuiden that is open 24/7.

I would go for the option North sea as you have a tight deadline.
 
I forgot to add that if you take the North sea don`t forget to call up Maas entrance on VHF channel 3.
Normally they want pleasure crafts that arrive from north to keep close to the red bouys on the Hoek van Holland side on Nieuwe Maas.
Till you have past the Europort entrance but they will describe everything in english for you.
Everything is depending on the traffic situation.
 
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Ok guys, thanks for all your help so far. I have bought the recommended Wateratlas, Wateralmanak and the Imray guide and I have planned my route from Amsterdam to Rotterdam. I'll go via Haarlem, Sassenheim,Be aware the haarlem way is much much slower than to Amsterdam and through the city. exepct long bridge waits for another craft. ie you turn up and wait 20 mins in the hope somebody else will arrive.

Oude Woutering and Gouda. I have checked height and opening hours of every bridge and lock on my route and thanks to the books I feel comfortable that my planning is good. I have two questions, however, that I hope you can help me with:

1) Height: By collapsing mast, bimini and vhf antennas I can reduce my total height from the waterline to 4m. Many bridges are lower and I'll just wait for them to open, but amongst those that are higher the lowest will be 4.3m - is a 30cm margin safe? I guess there can be small variations in water levels and a bit of waves from passing ships can make me bob a up and down a bit - should I go f

We kept our boat in this area for just under 30 years.

Dutch bridge heights are very accurate and well marked. If it says 4 it is 4. If you can get down to 4 mtr you will get under the side of the coenecoopbrug. We draw 2 mtrs and are 4 mtrs high and always went under.



a bigger margin? I really don't want to lose my flybridge windscreen! :)
2) Operating hours: Since I'll only be able to leave Amsterdam around 10.00, I'm worried that I may not make it past the last bridges before Gouda (Hefbrug te Boskoop/663, Hefbrug te Waddinxveen/664 and Coenecoopbrug/665) before 18.00. The almanak states Saturday operating hours until 18.00 - however the Imray guides states that in Jun-Jul-Aug the bridges are operated until 20.00 - which is the right version? Should the ending times - whichever are the correct ones - be considered final or can I call up by VHF for a special favour to get them opened a bit past hours?



Very unlikely to get a special opening, however if a barge is going down you can follow it and special exclusions can take place. Particulaly the closed time due to road traffic will be ignored. look at the web pages I indiicated earlier, direct from the water authority.


Once I'm past these three bridges I'm practically in Gouda where I may then spend the night, The yacht waiting area for the gouda rail bridge makes for a safe and free mooring, (dingy trip to gouda is good Best Gouda moorings need locking into town.), particularly for the delivery type voyage. Tie up securely on the good stagings.
DO NOT
press on towards Rotterdam AS there are few good mooring possibilities in the tidal ijissel river, until the marina nearish to the junction with the maas
3) If I run out of time around 18.00 (which seems to be the end of operating hours for most bridges on Saturdays) and get stuck somewhere between two bridges, can I just moor along the side of the canal and spend the night? I guess I won't have much choice but if I'll get authorities on my back I'll rather play it safer and moor somewhere authorized earlier.
as much of the canal is un moorable as there are no bollards. near the bridges there are some tie ups. oude wettering, and booskoop have some quay. but tie up securely as if a commercial boat passes there is considerable draw.
4) Once I reach Gouda the rest of the route to Rotterdam is pretty open and should be easy, so my target is to make it to Gouda on Saturday. Is it realistic to make it by 18.00? And can anybody recommend a nice spot to moor for the night in Gouda? Will I have to go to a marina or can I moor along the canal just for the night? If running late anchor in the wide AA, delightful and no commercial traffic. moorings in Alphen by bridge
5) Are there any restrictions for night-time navigation on the canals (apart from bridges and locks)? I assume the same rules apply for navigation/steaming lights?not aware of a restriction, normal nav lights etc

Sorry for the newbie questions, but I have to start somewhere and while the almanaks are helpful, you guys on this forum are invaluable! Thanks in advance.
 
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Hi all,

Just a quick note to say thanks to you all for all your help. I did the trip from Amsterdam to Rotterdam this weekend and everything went perfectly well, not least thanks to your tips and assistance. I found a way to depart a bit earlier from Amsterdam, so I went out of Sixhaven around 07.00 and including an hours break in Haarlem I reached Gouda by 17.00. A nice and scenic route, no major delays at any bridge, helpful people throughout (although surprisingly reluctant to speak English on the vhf channels). It helped that I had reduced my height to ~4m so I could skip under 10 bridges or so, but I think I would have reached Gouda by 18.00 anyway. Today Sunday I completed the last stretch down to Rotterdam from Gouda and arrived a couple of hours ahead of plan.
 
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