marchhare
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Why do some folks post the identical topic into two or more boards? surely the majority of us have a look more than one board expecting to see topics related to that particular board, not to view the same posting twice.
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Strathglass
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Re: Yes I agree
Most people look at all the boards to find a subject which intrests them. Perhaps something can be done to remove duplicate postings, they just take up space
Most people look at all the boards to find a subject which intrests them. Perhaps something can be done to remove duplicate postings, they just take up space
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Being one of those people who have recently posted to both Scuttlebut and the PBO site on the same subjects recently; all I can say is that I got useful replies to both queries from different contributors on each board.
As for taking up space, I am sure there is loads of it!!
Surely you can skip over a posting in the main index if you see the same title and sender.
It's by no means compulsory to look at everything.
Hope this helps to encourage all to make full use of the boards. I am sure I am not alone in generally looking at one in particular, but when I have time I take a peek eslewhere.
As for taking up space, I am sure there is loads of it!!
Surely you can skip over a posting in the main index if you see the same title and sender.
It's by no means compulsory to look at everything.
Hope this helps to encourage all to make full use of the boards. I am sure I am not alone in generally looking at one in particular, but when I have time I take a peek eslewhere.
vyv_cox
Well-known member
I agree that different replies can be received on separate posts, but that may only be a function of which one was seen first by the respondent.
I do think that duplicate posting partially negates the value of this type of forum, which is "threads". Discussions seem less likely to develop when posts are duplicated.
I do think that duplicate posting partially negates the value of this type of forum, which is "threads". Discussions seem less likely to develop when posts are duplicated.
Grehan
Well-known member
I agree with Vyv.
Duplicate postings are completely understandable but undesirable - well I think so anyway. Even if they do succeed in gleaning 'more' response.
It would add to/maintain richness of variety if Scuttlebutt was broadly but recognisably "opinion" and PBO was "nuts and bolts" - instead of the two being slightly different mixtures of the same thing, duplicate postings and all.
In general terms this YBW thing is really excellent - but that doesn't mean it can't be improved. Yes I know there's some sniping from the Voy 27508 direction - it's good for there to be some sharp edged competition, too.
A better and clearer "identity" - of content, visual appearance on-screen, etc - of each 'part' of YBW forums, within the whole, would mean better, more informative and more entertaining postings and better 'take up' of some forums (e.g Classic Boat?) that seem not to receive as much traffic or participation as they might/should, duplicate postings aside.
I'm not arguing for hard and fast rules, which would be just plain stupid. Just a bit of 'direction', which would enhance distinction and difference. U.S.P
Of course, this posting should 'properly' be in the General Discussion (website) Forum, not here . . . Should I duplicate it there?
Duplicate postings are completely understandable but undesirable - well I think so anyway. Even if they do succeed in gleaning 'more' response.
It would add to/maintain richness of variety if Scuttlebutt was broadly but recognisably "opinion" and PBO was "nuts and bolts" - instead of the two being slightly different mixtures of the same thing, duplicate postings and all.
In general terms this YBW thing is really excellent - but that doesn't mean it can't be improved. Yes I know there's some sniping from the Voy 27508 direction - it's good for there to be some sharp edged competition, too.
A better and clearer "identity" - of content, visual appearance on-screen, etc - of each 'part' of YBW forums, within the whole, would mean better, more informative and more entertaining postings and better 'take up' of some forums (e.g Classic Boat?) that seem not to receive as much traffic or participation as they might/should, duplicate postings aside.
I'm not arguing for hard and fast rules, which would be just plain stupid. Just a bit of 'direction', which would enhance distinction and difference. U.S.P
Of course, this posting should 'properly' be in the General Discussion (website) Forum, not here . . . Should I duplicate it there?
Twister_Ken
Well-known member
Broken threads
More to the point is that our collected wisdom (hah!) on one topic is spread across two threads, so as a useful archive of arcane knowledge YBW suffers.
PS is anything else ever 'arcane' apart from knowledge?
More to the point is that our collected wisdom (hah!) on one topic is spread across two threads, so as a useful archive of arcane knowledge YBW suffers.
PS is anything else ever 'arcane' apart from knowledge?
kimhollamby
Active member
No need, been watching this one with interest and thanks for the input.
As a rule we leave duplicate postings alone unless they are a straight plug for another (usually) commercial offering of some kind. But I also agree that they might dilute the content compared to a solo thread.
There are some interesting problems here. Some people access individual forums direct from mag homepages and are loyal enough to that mag that they have no real inclination to check out the other offerings. As a former mag editor I understand (and very much used to appreciate) such loyalty and for me it was always useful to know where those readers were posting messages. On the other hand, other users want to check out all that is going on here and/or have discovered the tools that are in place to make that easily possible. Some of you also read more than one IPC magazine.
It does of course raise the issue of whether we should have forums that concentrate purely on topics rather than being linked to magazines that necessarily overlap on interests. I would hasten to add that is not going to happen, at least in the short term, for we want to make the magazine sections of ybw.com and much livelier set of places to be over the next few months.
However, are some of you suggecting that the definitions for some of the forums (Scuttlebutt and Reader to Reader in particular) might usefully be redefined? And if so, what would you suggest?
One redeeming factor is that a search on the forums will bring up all items of interest for a given keyword, or fragment of it. So in terms of the whole set of ybw.com forums, nothing is lost, as such, whether it appears once or more than once.
And yes, as suggested in this thread, to all intents and purposes we have as much space as you need in the database, so the whole will keep growing and become proportionately more useful as an archive over time.
Thanks again for the input - always appreciated.
As a rule we leave duplicate postings alone unless they are a straight plug for another (usually) commercial offering of some kind. But I also agree that they might dilute the content compared to a solo thread.
There are some interesting problems here. Some people access individual forums direct from mag homepages and are loyal enough to that mag that they have no real inclination to check out the other offerings. As a former mag editor I understand (and very much used to appreciate) such loyalty and for me it was always useful to know where those readers were posting messages. On the other hand, other users want to check out all that is going on here and/or have discovered the tools that are in place to make that easily possible. Some of you also read more than one IPC magazine.
It does of course raise the issue of whether we should have forums that concentrate purely on topics rather than being linked to magazines that necessarily overlap on interests. I would hasten to add that is not going to happen, at least in the short term, for we want to make the magazine sections of ybw.com and much livelier set of places to be over the next few months.
However, are some of you suggecting that the definitions for some of the forums (Scuttlebutt and Reader to Reader in particular) might usefully be redefined? And if so, what would you suggest?
One redeeming factor is that a search on the forums will bring up all items of interest for a given keyword, or fragment of it. So in terms of the whole set of ybw.com forums, nothing is lost, as such, whether it appears once or more than once.
And yes, as suggested in this thread, to all intents and purposes we have as much space as you need in the database, so the whole will keep growing and become proportionately more useful as an archive over time.
Thanks again for the input - always appreciated.
yachtcharisma
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This may be too difficult to implement, but what would actually be handy would be if clicking on a thread in one forum would bring up all replies to that thread, regardless of which forum they originated from. I can see a few potential technical difficulties with making this work, but not necessarily insurmountable ones. What do you think?
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Patrick
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pugwash
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Speaking for myself as a long-time reader of YW for its cruising stuff and PBO for its practical, I wouldn't mind seeing both forums combined. Invariably I look at both; never the others. But that's just me, a coastal cruising man with muddy gumboots and a woolly hat.
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Good question.
Cross-posting has traditionally been frowned upon as a violation of "netiquette": but of course the fragmented nature of this kind of conversation can often lead to people posting in more than one forum "just in case". That can often be innocent enough, and being both a yachtsman and internet developer, I can assure you that the understanding of "netiquette" (essentially courtesy applied to this abstract environment) is greater amongst nerds than yotties.
Cross-posting for commercial purposes (spam) is different: a good forum will give them a dose of good-natured tar'n'feathers and "laugh them out of town".
I'd prefer to assume innocence rather than giving someone a "larting" for cross-posts here. It doesn't seem to be a problem.
Lost in Denmark - a yachtsmans paradise!
Cross-posting has traditionally been frowned upon as a violation of "netiquette": but of course the fragmented nature of this kind of conversation can often lead to people posting in more than one forum "just in case". That can often be innocent enough, and being both a yachtsman and internet developer, I can assure you that the understanding of "netiquette" (essentially courtesy applied to this abstract environment) is greater amongst nerds than yotties.
Cross-posting for commercial purposes (spam) is different: a good forum will give them a dose of good-natured tar'n'feathers and "laugh them out of town".
I'd prefer to assume innocence rather than giving someone a "larting" for cross-posts here. It doesn't seem to be a problem.
Lost in Denmark - a yachtsmans paradise!
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I was surprised no one asked you what a "larting" was!! It gets used around here quite a lot and takes the form of a two foot long piece of 2 X 1 pine with a piece of foam wrapped around one end.
Very handy for for use on the admin staff.
Very handy for for use on the admin staff.
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Personally, I use a 6 foot inflatable hammer.
Lost in Denmark - a yachtsmans paradise!
Lost in Denmark - a yachtsmans paradise!
