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No 1800 specific info, but this era of Dufour seems to have been very well built. I looked at several 2800s and their interiors were all in excellent condition despite their age. One massive plus is no headlining - just a nice shiny fibreglass liner.
 

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No 1800 specific info, but this era of Dufour seems to have been very well built. I looked at several 2800s and their interiors were all in excellent condition despite their age. One massive plus is no headlining - just a nice shiny fibreglass liner.
Thanks….yes droopy headliner is a no no?
 

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I had a 29' of the same era, as already said nice FG inner liner, plus if you're lucky nice orange sinks and original psychedelic cushion covers, very '70's! I read an article where 4 members of Dufour staff sailed a 29' across "the pond" and had a lovely time doing it - most of the 29's went to the states, I'm not sure why. Here's a link to yachtsnet archive page for the 1800...
 

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I had a 29' of the same era, as already said nice FG inner liner, plus if you're lucky nice orange sinks and original psychedelic cushion covers, very '70's! I read an article where 4 members of Dufour staff sailed a 29' across "the pond" and had a lovely time doing it - most of the 29's went to the states, I'm not sure why. Here's a link to yachtsnet archive page for the 1800...
Thanks for that the one available has a retractable keel which is not clear where it is
 

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What's with all these French boats you are looking at? Did Nelson and Hornblower fight for nothing?

Surely as a Brit abroad you should, as a matter of honour, be setting an example, showing the natives how a proper gentleman comports himself, and sail only craft, er, crafted in blessed Albion?

How about -
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What's with all these French boats you are looking at? Did Nelson and Hornblower fight for nothing?

Surely as a Brit abroad you should, as a matter of honour, be setting an example, showing the natives how a proper gentleman comports himself, and sail only craft, er, crafted in blessed Albion?

How about -
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It certainly gives pause for thought how did Albion rool the waves.On more mundane subjects the silly B thingy makes it difficult to import a mankyboat from blighty as I am cornered in Galicia my only choices are what previous Spaniards have imported
 
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Been investigating this boat on internet and came across information about the shoal drought version which is what is for sale in Galicia.According to the famous Anderson 22 punter who was on this forum the boat needs to be out the water every year to inspect the retracting keel which should be left down so the boat needs to be on treses.Anyway also amongst YouTube info was an account of a Dufour 1800 retractable keel breaking in half?So looks like another no no.The full keel version looks like a nice boat .Back to the drawing board?
 

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According to the famous Anderson 22 punter who was on this forum the boat needs to be out the water every year to inspect the retracting keel which should be left down so the boat needs to be on treses.Anyway also amongst YouTube info was an account of a Dufour 1800 retractable keel breaking in half? So looks like another no no.

Andy [Seahawk?] is a lovely chap, but he does have very firm opinions that not everyone would share.

Amazingly, there are tens of thousands of lifting keel boats, very few of which are kept on such raised trestles, and many of which don't have the keel inspected annually (which anyway would usually be done, I imagine, while the boat is in slings).

And just because one Dufour 1800 had a retractable keel break in half (surely a result of prolonged neglect and/or an accident?), doesn't mean they're all at risk.

Not that I'm promoting that particular Dufour 1800, or anything else.

The full keel version looks like a nice boat .Back to the drawing board?

Ah, but it's a bolt on keel. Sometimes they fall off! ;)

You obviously need a long-keeler . . .

. . . though beware their masts sometimes fall off! :D
 

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I think a lifting keel might be an advantage for getting in close to those lovely Ria beaches ?

The terrible thing about long keelers is that you need long arms to reach the bilge sump of course .
 

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Andy [Seahawk?] is a lovely chap, but he does have very firm opinions that not everyone would share.

Amazingly, there are tens of thousands of lifting keel boats, very few of which are kept on such raised trestles, and many of which don't have the keel inspected annually (which anyway would usually be done, I imagine, while the boat is in slings).

And just because one Dufour 1800 had a retractable keel break in half (surely a result of prolonged neglect and/or an accident?), doesn't mean they're all at risk.

Not that I'm promoting that particular Dufour 1800, or anything else.



Ah, but it's a bolt on keel. Sometimes they fall off! ;)

You obviously need a long-keeler . . .

. . . though beware their masts sometimes fall off! :D
Enough of your flippancy?
 

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The terrible thing about long keelers is that you need long arms to reach the bilge sump of course .

You would think there would be small street urchins keen to get the job of climbing in there, now that sending them up chimneys is banned. ;)

Actually, I've had three long-keelers. Two of them the bottom of the bilge sump has been untouched by human hand in my ownership (there's at least an oil filler cap, together with a diversity of nuts and washers etc., down there somewhere, adding to the ballast :D). Fortunately, the bilge pump inlet pipes (with strainers) reach easily. The third one I can easily reach the bottom of the sump, due to canny design.
 

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Been investigating this boat on internet and came across information about the shoal drought version which is what is for sale in Galicia.According to the famous Anderson 22 punter who was on this forum the boat needs to be out the water every year to inspect the retracting keel which should be left down so the boat needs to be on treses.Anyway also amongst YouTube info was an account of a Dufour 1800 retractable keel breaking in half?So looks like another no no.The full keel version looks like a nice boat .Back to the drawing board?

There was a shoal draught version AND centreboard version as well as the deep draught one. In the case of the centerboarder, the ballast is all in the boat and the keel stub, so the centerboard is in no way intrinsic to the stability; it’s just there to make windward progress slightly less mediocre.

Dufour 1800, un croiseur classique mais pas si ringard
 

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No pun intended, but I wouldn’t get too wound up about a lifting keel or centreboard. I’ve had a swing keel beneteau and it needed very little maintenance. One thing worth pointing out though - they can be tricky to get underneath to antifoul.
 

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