Drying out against a wall or a pile

[AIDY]

Has anybody else come to the conclusion that modern boats have too much weight in there stern for drying out against a wall or piles - hence always settling on an angle (on the rudder as well as the keel.)

On a recent cruise to the CI's I managed to pick up some fishing line wrapped round the prop. Instead of diving down to remove it I decided to dry out against a wall and change the anodes at the same time.

My boat has a draft of 2 metres (fin) weight about 10 ton with the engine, fuel, galley, water and usual locker junk all within the final 3rd half of the boat.

would you expect it to sit flat on the Keel ?

 

[tj101c70]

Hi,
I dried out my Sweden last saterday, about the same weight and shape as yours,,no problems, it did sit down by the stern a little, but this was only due to the angle of the slipway, on which she was siting,,(only option in Torquay) and was flat on the keel,
The Sweden has most of the weight midships, so not a great deal bow or stern

Regards TJ

 

[LadyInBed]

Good excuse to put some more anchor chain in the locker /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[andy_wilson]

My Fulmar has engine, with fuel (90lit) water (200lit) right aft. We have also had a cockpit party of 6 whilst high and dry on Lymington Town Quay slip.

The critical point is how much weight is balanced fore and aft of the rearmost tip of the fin.

Don't underestimate the weight of the hull, deck, mast, rigging and of course all of the keel in front of the aft tip.

In this context, I suspect you will be OK.

 

[beachbum]

I'm still trying to work out where the 3rd half of a boat is...

 

[AIDY]

yes very funny...... thanks for your very usful contribution....

as you say nobody is perfect... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

You better keep on saving those pennies... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[fireball]

I know ours will sit on the rudder and keel ... this is from putting her on a trailer and needing to sit the keel forward of the centre of balance on the trailer. Mind u, this was with mast down, so shouldn't be quite so bad. But we do only weight 3.5t !

I would have thought it was an advantage if it rested on the rudder as it gives you 3 point resting (keel, rudder, gunwhale) rather than balancing on 2 ... get it wrong and you end up with your bow on the bottom! Quite an issue with 6' draft (same as us!) ...

 

[charles_reed]

No!!

On most modern boats the CofG is about 2/3 of the LWL from the bows and the rudder almost invariably shallower than the keel.

My boat with lifting keel and rudder settles at about 18degrees from horizontal.

 

[graham]

Impossible to say from the limited information.I wouldnt chance it without finding out from owners of the same design or from the designer /builder.

 

[DeeGee]

[ QUOTE ]
yes very funny...... thanks for your very usful contribution....

as you say nobody is perfect... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

You better keep on saving those pennies... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Do you think (seeing CR's post) that yours is the normal distribution of weight? Does she sit on her waterline properly? How much 'apparent' mast rake do you have when sitting in the marina, loaded as you normally would? I have seen boats with amazing apparent rake, due to all the weight aft - what it does to the weather helm is the subject of mind-boggling!

Was aboard a boat once, not mine, and skipper went to do something on the foredeck.... you dont really need the rest spelled out?

 

[Marmalade]

We have to be careful of this... the boat (Catalina 28) can easily rest back on the rudder which has no skeg and isn't designed to bear weight - the trick is to keep the boat level as she dries out with bow and stern lines