Driest tender?

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my honwave air deck 2.7 is fairly dry for a dinghy. but they are heavy, bulky when folded, as there are many extra bits of rubber on sensible places for wear. my 2.5 avon i can throw around myself. (but more fragile).plenty of room in both - but larger tubes and a high bow do help with the wet.

or maybe only transport babe in calm weather !!
 

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The driest inflatable we have ever had was a Honwave.

Big tubes, nice floor, but it was very heavy, over 35 kilos.

We currently have a Talamex 2.3 which, for us, is the best compromise. It weighs 14 Kilos. As we store it on the pilothouse roof when not in use weight matters.

The most well appointed was a Walker Bay Genisis. About the same for dryness as the Honwave.

We dont like inflatable vee floors any more. The Talamex has a flat floor and is so much nicer for getting in and out.

No small open dinghy will be totally dry beating into a chop without a screen or cuddy.
 
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I keep wondering if a small compressor in the engine bay that runs when the engine is running (and so is “recharged” when the boat is already noisy) would be both faster and less irritating.
My 24l compressor maxes out at 8 bar, that’s 192l of air which isn’t enough to fill a dinghy to ambient pressure. You could fit a larger compressor tank but realistically you’ll lose too much space to make a viable solution.
 

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My 24l compressor maxes out at 8 bar, that’s 192l of air which isn’t enough to fill a dinghy to ambient pressure. You could fit a larger compressor tank but realistically you’ll lose too much space to make a viable solution.
Ah, I must have remembered wrongly the sort of pressures small compressors were operating up to.
 

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Ah, I must have remembered wrongly the sort of pressures small compressors were operating up to.
Yes I was surprised how low it was. A dive cylinder works but then it’s harder to charge. I’ve considered lots of options and on a boat a foot pump always comes up trumps for size and space, cost, and it’s not that much hassle in the grand scheme of things. We can dream though!
 

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My 24l compressor maxes out at 8 bar, that’s 192l of air which isn’t enough to fill a dinghy to ambient pressure. You could fit a larger compressor tank but realistically you’ll lose too much space to make a viable solution.

Don't understand your reasoning, a running compressor continues to provide air so is not limited to tank size.
 

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In NZ we had with our 'Glamping' kit a Coleman Queen size folding air bed. The air mattress was inflated with a simple plug in hand held pump that took 'D' cells.

It would inflate the mattress easily, batteries lasted well too. It differed from conventional inflatable boat valves by not having a rubber flap valve to keep the air in when the pump was removed. It used another method, a concertina section that locked onto an internal projection when pressed inwards once the mattress was filled.

For inflatable dinghy use a 'prodder' would be needed to poke the valve flap open when the electric low pressure, high volume vane type pump connector was inserted.

High volume, low pressure pumps are not able to overcome the pressure of the rubber flap valves fitted to dinghy's. A small mod might make them a goer.

Think about it - I have!
 
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Don't understand your reasoning, a running compressor continues to provide air so is not limited to tank size.
Yeah but a running compressor is noisy. Lustyd understood my suggested use case correctly: Have a high pressure reservoir which is filled when the engine is running (like lorry air brakes), because the engine is noisy anyway, but then is available to use "silently" when you want to quickly inflate the dinghy, then gets "recharged" when you next run the engine. I had assumed that those sort of compressors were capable of the sort of stuff dive bottles use - even if they are I'm guessing the sort of physical size I was imagining would take a long time of engine running to get up to pressure so may not always be recharged on 15 minutes leaving the marina and 10 minutes of anchoring. I just looked at what divers use for refilling their sets, and its a totally different scale to small workshop compressors (or indeed truck brakes).
 

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Don't understand your reasoning, a running compressor continues to provide air so is not limited to tank size.
Those compressors inflate considerably slower than a foot pump though, hence the need for larger tanks while spraying as the pump doesn’t keep up with demand at all.
 

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Yeah but a running compressor is noisy. Lustyd understood my suggested use case correctly: Have a high pressure reservoir which is filled when the engine is running (like lorry air brakes), because the engine is noisy anyway, but then is available to use "silently" when you want to quickly inflate the dinghy, then gets "recharged" when you next run the engine. I had assumed that those sort of compressors were capable of the sort of stuff dive bottles use - even if they are I'm guessing the sort of physical size I was imagining would take a long time of engine running to get up to pressure so may not always be recharged on 15 minutes leaving the marina and 10 minutes of anchoring. I just looked at what divers use for refilling their sets, and its a totally different scale to small workshop compressors (or indeed truck brakes).
Or just have a hard dinghy😅
 

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A large rigid tender is much better option provided you can drag it up the shore or slip and store it ashore. Stowing a large folded inflatable on board presents problems and restricts visibility. I have long ago transported baby in an inflatable and it was a touch awkward - not impossible or unsafe but awkward. Moving growing youngster in rigid was much easier. Not drier however

As I now have 6 month granddaughter such considerations come to my mind
 

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We've just got a Spearfish 3.1 to replace the old Zodiac. What a difference! High bow and dry, cuddy built in, inflatable floor, rows properly although I would prefer longer oars, but it weighs about 30kg.

Bizarrely, it packs up to the same size as the Zodiac. Main downside for is is that it can't take transom wheels.
 
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