Don't try to rescue a dog from the sea

emsworthy said:
There seems to be a general problem in this bit of the north-east as far as identifying animals is concerned! :p
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Hanging-of-the-Hartlepool-Monkey/
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Take care - some dahn sarf have bigger difficulties :p:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-13507026/stuffed-toy-tiger-sparks-police-hunt

More seriously, as the canine distemper virus jumps species, it’s best for seals (and other wild carnivores) to keep away from dogs: ‘The spread and incidences of CDV epidemics are increasing, due to globalisation and the rise in the domestic and feral dog populations associated with growing human populations, especially where these impinge on previously undisturbed habitats.’ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071025094914.htm
 
Hydrozoan said:
Take care - some dahn sarf have bigger difficulties :p:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-13507026/stuffed-toy-tiger-sparks-police-hunt

More seriously, as the canine distemper virus jumps species, it’s best for seals (and other wild carnivores) to keep away from dogs: ‘The spread and incidences of CDV epidemics are increasing, due to globalisation and the rise in the domestic and feral dog populations associated with growing human populations, especially where these impinge on previously undisturbed habitats.’ https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071025094914.htm
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Interesting article but really not to relevant to the UK seal population as Distemper virus is vaccinated for in dogs in the UK , and for those people who do not get their dogs inoculated as pups , would be very small or their dogs wouldn't last to long , the big issues are with countries that have a high feral dog population
 
I wonder whether a dog-lifejacket prevents the wearer from swimming, in the same way that the human L.J. does? I doubt it.

Maybe dog-lovers who take their critter to sea-cliffs and rivers and frozen lakes, could show foresight and fondness with a £14 outlay?

Half the trouble experienced by the RNLI seems to be the absence of a handle on the dog, as provided by the L.J.

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This summer I did in fact pull a 22kg dog from the water as I sailed past. He had jumped off someone elses boat. Thank goodness he was wearing a lifejacket. He was able to swim with it, and the real bonus was being able to grab the handle on the back of the lifejacket to help haul him aboard.

dancrane said:
I wonder whether a dog-lifejacket prevents the wearer from swimming, in the same way that the human L.J. does? I doubt it.

Maybe dog-lovers who take their critter to sea-cliffs and rivers and frozen lakes, could show foresight and fondness with a £14 outlay?

Half the trouble experienced by the RNLI seems to be the absence of a handle on the dog, as provided by the L.J.

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dancrane said:
I wonder whether a dog-lifejacket prevents the wearer from swimming, in the same way that the human L.J. does? I doubt it.

Maybe dog-lovers who take their critter to sea-cliffs and rivers and frozen lakes, could show foresight and fondness with a £14 outlay?

Half the trouble experienced by the RNLI seems to be the absence of a handle on the dog, as provided by the L.J.

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No it does not stop them swimming and the handle is a must for lifting out some really good products out there but like anything don't always think cheapest is best do your research as if you were doing it for a human.
Not that this should turn into a human v dog contest , but I'm sure the RNLI must get exasperated with people going out on lylos and dinghies in the summer , or not heeding rip currents , not having life jackets going out for a jolly , not checking they have enough fuel in their boat for their trip, no VHF, no mobile, pretending to be spider man , going for a walk on the beach without looking at tides etc etc etc !!

AH thank goodness the RNLI are not a judgemental lot and do it out of pride and the love of helping either animal or human in distress no matter how they got there.!!!
 
moomba said:
thank goodness the RNLI are not a judgemental lot and do it out of pride and the love of helping either animal or human in distress no matter how they got there.
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Hear, hear.

But I'd say the unthinking response by humans (who clearly care retrospectively, rather than by foreseeing the doggy-dip) believing a beloved pet is in deadly danger of drowning, is a reason why dog-swims turn into human rescue-incidents or tragedies.

If you think your pet has minutes (at best) before drowning, you may act rashly and endanger yourself too. If on the other hand, Fido is bobbing along, floating without any imminent end in sight, a more balanced plan of action by onlookers seems likely.

So every reason for pet-lovers to equip the dog for a swim, whether or not they intend letting him get wet. It's rarely their decision.
 
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Romeo said:
....... unless you are sure it is a dog.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-45547007

Lifeboat crews launched a rescue bid for a "dog" in trouble in the sea which turned out to be a seal.
The RNLI said what was thought to be a Jack Russell was spotted off Roker Pier, Sunderland, on Saturday.
But when Sunderland Coastguard Rescue Team arrived, they realised it was in fact a small seal in the water.
RNLI spokesman Paul Robinson said crews only became involved in dog rescues to try to prevent owners risking their lives and going into the water.
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Isn't that quite near where they hanged the monkey?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_hanger
 
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moomba said:
Interesting article but really not to relevant to the UK seal population as Distemper virus is vaccinated for in dogs in the UK , and for those people who do not get their dogs inoculated as pups , would be very small or their dogs wouldn't last to long , the big issues are with countries that have a high feral dog population
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Sure, but pleased you found the article interesting. I recalled news of a particular case - probably one of the Caspian seal mass mortalities - and came up with it while searching.
 
I've heard a story of a male RNLI Crew member being bitten by the injured seal he was 'rescuing', and who now has an incurable disease that will effect him adversly for the rest of his life.(don't know what the disease is,but the symptoms are continuously 'streaming' eyes and nose.) I have also seen the pictures,and read the factual account of a female RNLI Crew member, who had the majority of her lower lip bitten off by the dog that she was' rescuing',This injury will adversly effect her for the rest of her life.
Be warned.
Cheers
 
mjcoon said:
Not really, it is a satire on games with complex rules, hence there are often extra protocols announced before the game starts.

Mike (ISIHAC listener for decades).
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There was an analogue of Mornington Crescent around from before that series. It involved pretending to be in the middle of a game moving cutlery and other objects around the table to mystify a third party who had just come in. It had a name, which I forget.
 
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