Does my morse control have a warm up position?

I'm on a mooring so usually just start the engine, check water is coming out of the exhaust, briefly try forward and reverse and then cast off and go.
 
I'm on a mooring so usually just start the engine, check water is coming out of the exhaust, briefly try forward and reverse and then cast off and go.

Indeed. One should start the engine before casting off the lines. We have 6 lines each side so that takes a couple of minutes which is fine.

Same at anchor. Takes a couple of minutes to sort out the snubber and wind the anchor in and then we're off.

Even untying the lines to a mooring buoy or casting off lazy lines etc takes a minute which is plenty of time, surely? :confused:

Richard
 
I cannot for the life of me fathom if my morse control has a warm up position? Has anyone seen one like this before?
I have pulled pushed and tweaked all ways to no avail. It looks like the pinky tab should move however it has a screw through it so I cannot see how it can. Any thoughts would be appreciated. It may just not have that facility.
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Welcome to the forum.

Firstly you cannot post pictures as a new user ........ I think you need 5 posts under your bet to get that privilege. It's to stop new users posting "naughty" pictures

Secondly you cannot imbed dropbox images in the way you have tried to do it. ( I dont know anything about how to use Dropbox though)


Thirdly .......... You are presumably looking for the equivalent of the familiar Teleflex Mose "red button" that allows the throttle to be advanced with engaging gear. ......... I guess that is the pink tab .... PVB seems to be the only one who has addressed this , in post #3. I reckon you are going to have to strip the control down to sort it out.


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I've worked in the aviation industry for a few years, have you ever seen an aircraft (fixed or rotary) turn the key and trundle down the runway.

Yes, pretty much all the time, as soon as the engine is started, after start checks complete, we call the tower for taxy and go. If you are paying by HOBBS rather than tacho time, I want to waste the minimum. I'd expect the oil temp to be in the green arc by the time engine checks and pre-take off checks are complete though.
 
That is exactly what I was after, thanks. Whilst I thought the tab had something to do with it, as it is very firmly stuck I didn't know which way it was supposed to go. I shall dismantle and see what I can free up.
Thanks all, much appreciated.
 
That is exactly what I was after, thanks. Whilst I thought the tab had something to do with it, as it is very firmly stuck I didn't know which way it was supposed to go. I shall dismantle and see what I can free up.
Thanks all, much appreciated.

Mu guess is that the pink tab has to be pressed away from you, probably against a light spring, in order to open the throttle without engaging gear.
 
I have really been disappointed by the glib, smartass "contributions" to this thread. Where is the genuine spirit of helpfulness that usually manifests itself here?

In post 3...
Indeed so .... post #3 was the answer to the technical question.

Where, exactly, are the smartass contributions? I've just re-read the entire thread and I can't find them. :confused:

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Mu guess is that the pink tab has to be pressed away from you, probably against a light spring, in order to open the throttle without engaging gear.

Wot he said
The depression is clearly to press, which then levers out the control lever to disengage the gear shift. I know another that does it that way, but without the tab.
 
Wot he said
The depression is clearly to press, which then levers out the control lever to disengage the gear shift. I know another that does it that way, but without the tab.
Good point. I'd not thought of it working that way.

Before tearing it down some release oil such as Plus Gas or WD-40 Penetrant might be worth trying (but not some homemade concoction that might contain a solvent that would damage the plastics parts)
 
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Wot he said
The depression is clearly to press, which then levers out the control lever to disengage the gear shift. I know another that does it that way, but without the tab.

My control levers work exactly like that. I just pull out the entire lever about a cm and that disengages the gear mechanism. Mine just has a couple of notches in the central boss of the lever to enable it to be gripped, which would seem to be the obvious way to address the issue .... which does make me suspect that the OP's don't work like that.

Richard
 
My car has an engine that was designed 10 to 15 years ago. The boat has an engine that was designed 50 to 60 years ago.

I've worked in the aviation industry for a few years, have you ever seen an aircraft (fixed or rotary) turn the key and trundle down the runway. Its all about getting things up to working tempratures and pressures.

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While I do start the engines before sorting out ropes and shore power but don’t run in neutral at the berth any faster than normal idle in neutral. A few minutes after starting we are on the move.
Never had an issue with that.
I would say however the engine should have some heat put into it at slow speed before attempting to reach high revs.
Excessive idling under no load is not good.

the difference is an aircraft engine is required to work hard at take off while an internal combustion engine in a boat may be warmed up gradually while under way .
I am surprised you drew the parallel between a boat and an aircraft
 
... I am surprised you drew the parallel between a boat and an aircraft

I think his point was that in a marina, engine failure (stall) is a critical failure with a high probability of hitting something, and it is more likely when the engine is cold. Running the engine for a few minutes reduces the probability.

I've had Morse dual engine controls (catamaran), which are just a bit different. You simply pull the lever outwards, away from the housing, to prevent the gear from engaging. no little red tab. Just FYI.
 
I think his point was that in a marina, engine failure (stall) is a critical failure with a high probability of hitting something

This is why when first leaving the dock in a confined maina you should be ready to raise a sail to maintain way thus steerage so you don't end up hitting something.

Power boats very often have 2 engines.
 
While I do start the engines before sorting out ropes and shore power but don’t run in neutral at the berth any faster than normal idle in neutral. A few minutes after starting we are on the move.
Never had an issue with that.
I would say however the engine should have some heat put into it at slow speed before attempting to reach high revs.
Excessive idling under no load is not good.

the difference is an aircraft engine is required to work hard at take off while an internal combustion engine in a boat may be warmed up gradually while under way .
I am surprised you drew the parallel between a boat and an aircraft
I used the aircraft example as it is an industry I have worked in during my working life and recall the engine start up procedures.

I have the added delight of between £50 - £100 million worth of brand new Princess Yachts superyachts, when I mean brand new they are just off the production line, being finished and commissioned, between my berth and the exit of the marina which concentrates the mind just a tad. :) Personally, I'd like the engine to be running as efficiently as possible while exiting/entering the marina. My insurance company are aware of the situation just in case! ;)
 
Mu guess is that the pink tab has to be pressed away from you, probably against a light spring, in order to open the throttle without engaging gear.
I have pulled pushed and generally abused that pink tab to no avail. Not sure how it pushes in as there is a screw through the middle of it so I 'm not sure how it pushes unless the screw moves in with it. I shall dismantle though and see what happens.
 
This is why when first leaving the dock in a confined maina you should be ready to raise a sail to maintain way thus steerage so you don't end up hitting something.

Power boats very often have 2 engines.

Really? That's the reason not to run the engine for 2-3 minutes?

* How many crew? Single handing this will be stimulating.
* How much wind?
* What direction?

In fact, there is a better than 50% chance that sail will just make you hit something harder. Some of the worst damamge I've seen resulted from people trying to recover from a slow drift into a bad situation with power or sail instead of just fending.

Have you ever maneuvered a twin engine boat in tight quarters with one engine? I know with cats this is well nigh impossible unless you have a well considered plan (they go in circles and do not respond to the rudder, at all).

I'm kinna thinking that was a joke.
 
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