Ohlin Karcher
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A poster here, purplerobbie, may be worth tracking down re the IC-M801E.
Does anyone still (a) use, and or (b) carry aboard, any or all of these?
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A poster here, purplerobbie, may be worth tracking down re the IC-M801E.
Neeves
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Its a rather long list, too long for my memory - so I need to requote it.
We do not have a lead line but do have 3 independent electronic means to measure depth, 2 in one hull and one in the other.
We do not carry Norie's tables nor the ship Captains Medical guide - but have an alternative (not being a Ship's Captain I'm not qualified to have one).
We carry Signal Flags - and beautiful though they are - have never used them - though we did purloin a couple as Class Flags
We carry paper charts, tide tables and have them electronically - I cannot imagine being without either version.
CA Handbook - it never crossed my consciousness I should have one.
We have one aneroid and one electronic Barometer (Prosser?)
We use an ICOM M800 (has an unusual optical cable to connect radio to control panel) for weather forecasts (with VHF as back up - our marine Rescue will happily provide a full forecast if you are within range and some transmit on a schedule - you can query with them bar conditions and local weather at their station).
Most cruising guides, hereabouts, are based on the relevant data from Admiralty Pilots. If you search for old editions they are cheap as chips and were largely written by people like Bass and Flinders in vessels not much different in size to our own. Our Pilots cover all of SE Asia, including the Yangtse from Japan to Indonesia and separate volumes for Oz.
We use Bins, Compass, Admiralty Pilots, Paper Charts, Tide charts, HF Radio, and Baros regularly
We came back from the Philippines, to HK, once using old traditional navigational skills (just as GPS was being introduced) and arrived in HK with an error of 10nm - which I thought not bad. The log was last used in anger then - circa 1980.
Jonathan
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thinwater
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* Binoculars, though more for looking at other boats than navigation. Sometimes navigation.
* Chart book, since scrolling through electronic charts is annoying sometimes. Paper is more relaxing when planning tomorrow.
The rest is pretty obsolete. Of course, I've cruised the same waters for 35 years, so I really don't use much of anything to navigate. I just "go there." It's kind of embarrassing just how much of the bottom contour I've memorized.
* Chart book, since scrolling through electronic charts is annoying sometimes. Paper is more relaxing when planning tomorrow.
The rest is pretty obsolete. Of course, I've cruised the same waters for 35 years, so I really don't use much of anything to navigate. I just "go there." It's kind of embarrassing just how much of the bottom contour I've memorized.
DoubleEnder
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Lots of negativity about the CA book. Is it so bad? What’s the preferred alternative?
cherod
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nope,, but i do have a grinder , cutting , grinding and sanding discs ,,cordless drill ( and assortmrnt of drills ) , some primer and some white paint . oops,, binoculars and Navionics
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Sticky Fingers
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RupertW
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1. Binoculars - yes, occasional
2. Hand bearing compass - yes but almost never
3. Stopwatch - no
4. Lead line- yes but only to practice
5. Admiralty Pilots - no use other local pilots
6. Walker log - no
7. Sextant - no
8. Deck watch - no, don’t know what this is
9. List of Lights - no
10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use).- no
11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide - no but have others
12. International Code of Signals - no
13. Signal flags - no
14. Nautical Almanac - no, not sure what I’d use it for
15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables - no - look online
16. C A Handbook. No
17. Paper charts, Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers. Yes to all
18. Station Pointer... No, never heard of it
19. Aneroid barometer? - Yes
20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts? No, go online all sailing outside shipping forecast areas
2. Hand bearing compass - yes but almost never
3. Stopwatch - no
4. Lead line- yes but only to practice
5. Admiralty Pilots - no use other local pilots
6. Walker log - no
7. Sextant - no
8. Deck watch - no, don’t know what this is
9. List of Lights - no
10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use).- no
11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide - no but have others
12. International Code of Signals - no
13. Signal flags - no
14. Nautical Almanac - no, not sure what I’d use it for
15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables - no - look online
16. C A Handbook. No
17. Paper charts, Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers. Yes to all
18. Station Pointer... No, never heard of it
19. Aneroid barometer? - Yes
20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts? No, go online all sailing outside shipping forecast areas
LadyInBed
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b 1. Binoculars
b 2. Hand bearing compass
N 3. Stopwatch on Phone / Tablet
a 4. Lead line
a 5. Admiralty Pilots and on Phone / Tablet
N 6. Walker log
b 7. Sextant
N 8. Deck watch on Phone / Tablet
N 9. List of Lights
N 10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use). at home
b 11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide on Phone / Tablet
b 12. International Code of Signals
N 13. Signal flags
b 14. Nautical Almanac
b 15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables and on Phone / Tablet
b 16. C A Handbook. Old
b 17. Paper charts, Old Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers.
N 18. Station Pointer...
b 19. Aneroid barometer?
b 20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts
b 2. Hand bearing compass
N 3. Stopwatch on Phone / Tablet
a 4. Lead line
a 5. Admiralty Pilots and on Phone / Tablet
N 6. Walker log
b 7. Sextant
N 8. Deck watch on Phone / Tablet
N 9. List of Lights
N 10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use). at home
b 11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide on Phone / Tablet
b 12. International Code of Signals
N 13. Signal flags
b 14. Nautical Almanac
b 15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables and on Phone / Tablet
b 16. C A Handbook. Old
b 17. Paper charts, Old Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers.
N 18. Station Pointer...
b 19. Aneroid barometer?
b 20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts
Uricanejack
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1. Binoculars. a couple of pairs.
2. Hand bearing compass, I wouldn't leave home without one. Old one in box and modern hockey puck.
3. Stopwatch. no. I do have an app on my cell phone,
4. Lead line, does a piece of string with a wrench count?
5. Admiralty Pilots. CDN pac coast small craft edd, slightly out of date, only by about 2 decades, with a few stains. supplimented, by favourite cruising guides
6. Walker log, looking for one because I collect old nautical shit.
7. Sextant, I have 2 on a shelf at home. I take it out and show interested youngsters seasonally
8. Deck watch, I have one of those brass clocks on the chart table bulkhead.
9. List of Lights, hmm actually no, available on line, is it worth carrying, if you keep it up to date yes. Updated faster than charts.
10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use). I have 3 copies, v old, old in box and a recent volume. None on board my boat.
11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide. No. I would pick up a used book if I ever found one. Collectable not for the boat. I have used in distant past. The M section would be worth having along with the next item if offshore JIK you I ever need advice.
12. International Code of Signals. No again if I find an old copy I would add to my collection.
13. Signal flags. No
14. Nautical Almanacs, I by one every year, kept with Norris’s on a shelf at home. Except for special occasions
15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables. CDN Tide tables on board along current atlas, ports and passes non almanac
16. C A Handbook. Never heard of it
17. Paper charts, Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers. Usually, Breton plotter, plus Capt fields patten.
18. Station Pointer... no
19. Aneroid barometer? Beside brass clock
20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts? short and long wave. Forecast from VHF
A few others I have at home not on boat, usually found a second hand book stores, eBay or amazon.
One upon a time long ago MCMillan and Silk cut almanac had most of the above publications. I don’t suppose it exist now,
Haven’t sailed in UK other than as a guest for many years.
Not sure fit all of it on board my own boat, don’t think I have all of them on any of the boats I go on regularly. Of course I don’t go further than a day sail from the nearest pub. These days.
Confession, went for a bit of a cruise last summer for a few days, when my niece asked where we were. I had to show her on a plasticized table mat I picked up at a boat show. It was the nearest thing to an official publication on board.
2. Hand bearing compass, I wouldn't leave home without one. Old one in box and modern hockey puck.
3. Stopwatch. no. I do have an app on my cell phone,
4. Lead line, does a piece of string with a wrench count?
5. Admiralty Pilots. CDN pac coast small craft edd, slightly out of date, only by about 2 decades, with a few stains. supplimented, by favourite cruising guides
6. Walker log, looking for one because I collect old nautical shit.
7. Sextant, I have 2 on a shelf at home. I take it out and show interested youngsters seasonally
8. Deck watch, I have one of those brass clocks on the chart table bulkhead.
9. List of Lights, hmm actually no, available on line, is it worth carrying, if you keep it up to date yes. Updated faster than charts.
10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use). I have 3 copies, v old, old in box and a recent volume. None on board my boat.
11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide. No. I would pick up a used book if I ever found one. Collectable not for the boat. I have used in distant past. The M section would be worth having along with the next item if offshore JIK you I ever need advice.
12. International Code of Signals. No again if I find an old copy I would add to my collection.
13. Signal flags. No
14. Nautical Almanacs, I by one every year, kept with Norris’s on a shelf at home. Except for special occasions
15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables. CDN Tide tables on board along current atlas, ports and passes non almanac
16. C A Handbook. Never heard of it
17. Paper charts, Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers. Usually, Breton plotter, plus Capt fields patten.
18. Station Pointer... no
19. Aneroid barometer? Beside brass clock
20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts? short and long wave. Forecast from VHF
A few others I have at home not on boat, usually found a second hand book stores, eBay or amazon.
One upon a time long ago MCMillan and Silk cut almanac had most of the above publications. I don’t suppose it exist now,
Haven’t sailed in UK other than as a guest for many years.
Not sure fit all of it on board my own boat, don’t think I have all of them on any of the boats I go on regularly. Of course I don’t go further than a day sail from the nearest pub. These days.
Confession, went for a bit of a cruise last summer for a few days, when my niece asked where we were. I had to show her on a plasticized table mat I picked up at a boat show. It was the nearest thing to an official publication on board.
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Frank Holden
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Daverw
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I assume the CA Book the OP refers to is the Cruising Association’s Almanac, which is very good and for members very well priced.
PilotWolf
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langstonelayabout
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Interesting. It's very similar to the Spanish 'Orden FOM seguridad embarcaciones de recreo_AP11 mayo 2' which I understand to be their regulations for small boats:
1 Compass
2 Sextant
3 Chronometer
4 Dividers
5 Protractor
6 Rule 40cm
7 Binoculars
8 Nautical Charts & publications
9 Barometer
10 National registration
11 Set of flags
12 Waterproof torch
13 Navigation logbook
14 Radar reflector
15 Table of rescue signs
16 Table of flags table
john_morris_uk
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1. Binoculars
Yes. Two pairs and used frequently. One’s got a bearing compass in it.
2. Hand bearing compass
Yes in its stowage just inside the companionway. Used frequently.
3. Stopwatch
Only on my phone. Not used.
4. Lead line
Yes. Usually used very occasionally for checking the e/s calibration and for when we are taking the ground etc.
5. Admiralty Pilots
Yes. Several plus lots of CA and other pilot books. I don’t consult the admiralty ones often.
6. Walker log
Yes. I’ve been known to check the calibration of our main log with it. I haven’t used it for a while.
7. Sextant
Yes. Used when I get bored on passage.
8. Deck watch
No.
9. List of Lights
No.
10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use).
No (but I keep meaning to get some.)
11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide
Yes and I did the week long course to go with it! (Someone else paid!). We usually use the St John’s/Red Cross First Aid Manual if we need to check anything.
12. International Code of Signals
No -only what’s in the almanac.
13. Signal flags
Yes (sad aren’t we). Only used for dressing overall.
14. Nautical Almanac
Yes. Used occasionally.
15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables
Yes
16. C A Handbook.
Yes
17. Paper charts, Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers.
Yes. Hundreds of them. Used all the time.
18. Station Pointer...
NO
19. Aneroid barometer?
Another sad admission that we carry two. A standard barometer on the bulkhead and a barograph (marine one damped for use on a yacht)
20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts?
I’m afraid we’ve got two of these too. There’s a portable one that gets used for Test Match Special and the SSB installation has a receiver I can get 198 kHz on as well.
Who else carries a speed times distance calculator? https://www.seachest.co.uk/plotting-instruments/speed-time-distance-calculator-large/
Yes. Two pairs and used frequently. One’s got a bearing compass in it.
2. Hand bearing compass
Yes in its stowage just inside the companionway. Used frequently.
3. Stopwatch
Only on my phone. Not used.
4. Lead line
Yes. Usually used very occasionally for checking the e/s calibration and for when we are taking the ground etc.
5. Admiralty Pilots
Yes. Several plus lots of CA and other pilot books. I don’t consult the admiralty ones often.
6. Walker log
Yes. I’ve been known to check the calibration of our main log with it. I haven’t used it for a while.
7. Sextant
Yes. Used when I get bored on passage.
8. Deck watch
No.
9. List of Lights
No.
10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use).
No (but I keep meaning to get some.)
11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide
Yes and I did the week long course to go with it! (Someone else paid!). We usually use the St John’s/Red Cross First Aid Manual if we need to check anything.
12. International Code of Signals
No -only what’s in the almanac.
13. Signal flags
Yes (sad aren’t we). Only used for dressing overall.
14. Nautical Almanac
Yes. Used occasionally.
15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables
Yes
16. C A Handbook.
Yes
17. Paper charts, Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers.
Yes. Hundreds of them. Used all the time.
18. Station Pointer...
NO
19. Aneroid barometer?
Another sad admission that we carry two. A standard barometer on the bulkhead and a barograph (marine one damped for use on a yacht)
20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts?
I’m afraid we’ve got two of these too. There’s a portable one that gets used for Test Match Special and the SSB installation has a receiver I can get 198 kHz on as well.
Who else carries a speed times distance calculator? https://www.seachest.co.uk/plotting-instruments/speed-time-distance-calculator-large/
sailaboutvic
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34 replies and no mention of food , Don't any one eat .
Maybe the question should be how much if you was just fitting out a boat would you go out and buy?
Maybe the question should be how much if you was just fitting out a boat would you go out and buy?
Neeves
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Then maybe we should also add lead crystal ships decanter (one of those wide bottomed ones)
Does everyone carry a Red Ensign?
I confess if we sold Josepheline we would remove most of the items and transfer them to the new yacht. Especially so for the the antique items, War Department Prismatic Compass, Admiralty Pilots, my father's Zeiss Bins etc.
Jonathan
chrishscorp
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1. Binoculars Yes 2 pairs usually 1 pr on deck to hand
2. Hand bearing compass Yes old fashioned one frequently used
3. Stopwatch No facility on I phone
4. Lead line I made one from string and an old shackle when we needed one
5. Admiralty Pilots No
6. Walker log No taken ashore
7. Sextant No taken ashore
8. Deck watch Brass clock on bulkhead
9. List of Lights No
10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use). No
11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide No, I prefer to carry a Nurse or if i am really lucky, two
12. International Code of Signals No
13. Signal flags Yes of course
14. Nautical Almanac Yes
15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables Yes, a must have
16. C A Handbook. No but do have a couple of cruising guides
17. Paper charts, Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers. Yes, charts cover anywhere we go and they are plotted on pretty much every trip
18. Station Pointer... No, never heard of
19. Aneroid barometer? Yes next to the clock and used
20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts? No, Have I phone so access to several forecasts as and when
Plenty of grub on board
Red Ensign Yes, used
Lead crystal decanter No :highly_amused:
2. Hand bearing compass Yes old fashioned one frequently used
3. Stopwatch No facility on I phone
4. Lead line I made one from string and an old shackle when we needed one
5. Admiralty Pilots No
6. Walker log No taken ashore
7. Sextant No taken ashore
8. Deck watch Brass clock on bulkhead
9. List of Lights No
10. Norie’s Tables (or the one the Navy use). No
11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide No, I prefer to carry a Nurse or if i am really lucky, two
12. International Code of Signals No
13. Signal flags Yes of course
14. Nautical Almanac Yes
15. Yachtsman’s Almanac / Tide Tables Yes, a must have
16. C A Handbook. No but do have a couple of cruising guides
17. Paper charts, Portland plotter or parallel rules and dividers. Yes, charts cover anywhere we go and they are plotted on pretty much every trip
18. Station Pointer... No, never heard of
19. Aneroid barometer? Yes next to the clock and used
20. Long wave radio for shipping forecasts? No, Have I phone so access to several forecasts as and when
Plenty of grub on board
Red Ensign Yes, used
Lead crystal decanter No :highly_amused:
laika
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Is it true that if you drop an aubergine into water it always floats north-south?
Kukri
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I think Sailaboutvic and Neeves are onto something; this non-electronic navigational equipment is ‘personal effects’ and goes with each of us from one boat to the next, being discarded only when as with Decca and RDF it is finally definitely ‘dead’.
Food - about a week’s supply of tins, dry stuff (rice, pasta, porridge) and long life milk. Still looking for tinned butter...
Food - about a week’s supply of tins, dry stuff (rice, pasta, porridge) and long life milk. Still looking for tinned butter...
laika
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I was about to ask how you can see the consistency inside a tin but of course now I realise that you just keep this acknowledged though perishable navigational aid in there until needed in case of sextant failure