Does anyone still (a) use, and or (b) carry aboard, any or all of these?

[Frank Holden]

I once used a leadline in anger while in the day job.... 50 years and several months ago in the Gulf of Carpentaria. Both echosounder and radar had packed up on our way north through the GBR. We were taking the first cargo of mining equipment into Gove for Nabalco.
Sunset.... no sign of land... stopped ship... cast the lead.... depth suggested were were about three hours from an unlit coast.... dropped anchor. Proceeded on passage just before daylight the next day.
I learnt rather a lot on that ship.

Don't carry one on my boat. If required I would simply use the mainsheet or similar with a dive weight or shaft anode tied to the end. How deep is it? Well, between wingtips on most humans its as close as makes no difference to a fathom... just measure as you haul it in...

 

[gus]

You forgot the Peloris!

 

[JumbleDuck]

You forgot the Peloris!

I think they have been replaced with Tridents now. Both impractical for smaller yachts, but might help fishing boats remember the rules of the road.

 

[Kukri]

Sorry, I can't be bothered to read all posts to see if anyone has added "bolt cutters". I thought they were fairly standard. Even found them provided on a charter yacht. And used them, though only to threaten cutting the lines of an Italian motor boat that was trying to winch itself in next to us in Fiskardo, Kefalonia, where there was no space. My acting of lost patience, designed to convince the Italian, drew a ripple of applause from the assembled spectators on that busy quay...

Mike.

This was a thread about non-electronic aids to navigation.

 

[LadyInBed]

I’m slightly confused by your comment as way back at replies #6 and #7 etc people (including me subsequently) were admitting to having a lead line on board.

Having a bilge keel, I actually use my lead line, mainly when I anchor up an estuary and expect to dry out.
I drop it off the beams to make sure I get no nasty surprises when the water disappears.

 

[Frank Holden]

Still looking for tinned butter...

Latitude... for the determination of?

Wouldn't that be a bit like trying to use a digital watch to find north?

PS Margerine won't work... different melting point...... you will end up becalmed in the middle of the Azores High

 

[mjcoon]

This was a thread about non-electronic aids to navigation.

Not explicitly. I guess these are "non-electronic aids to navigation" in the most general sense:

11. The Ship Captain’s Medical Guide
12. International Code of Signals
13. Signal flags

Mike.

 

[john_morris_uk]

Tinned butter: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/272550436871

Or from Amazon: FRANCELIA Canned Butter, Lightly Salted (250g) Shelf life:2020 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07D5DCJQJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_5ai1DbWK5FVVH

 

[Uricanejack]

Tinned butter: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/272550436871

Or from Amazon: FRANCELIA Canned Butter, Lightly Salted (250g) Shelf life:2020 https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07D5DCJQJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_5ai1DbWK5FVVH

Amazon is great for finding odd things I can’t get anywhere else,

If I was to check my mum and dads house I’m sure I find some tinned butter along with some corned beef and sardines, thee price tag in pre decimal currency

I checked the link and amazon suggested some other delights.
Powdered eggs
Dried eggs
Compact emergency rations.

 

[Frank Holden]

Golden Churn https://www.shopnz.com/new-zealand-butter-in-a-can-240005?nc=1 was still available at Auckland Airport last time I looked.
Hellish expensive though... over double the price of 'ordinary' butter.

Once upon a time I carried some 'Golden Churn' but found there was no need... ordinary butter lasts as long as is required, in the fridge in the tropics, or turn of the bilge when in cooler climes..

 

[Daydream believer]

This was a thread about non-electronic aids to navigation.

Oh come off it, this is a forum!!:sleeping:
Come to that what about an anchor? If one used that one could use it to navigate up creeks by stopping at places to beat the tides--- Gotta have an anchor in a thread :encouragement:
Or perhaps a kedge
Or both!!

 

[Kukri]

Well it’s a thread about the navigational uses of tinned butter by now. Oh, and dried eggs. And if you magnetise your bolt cutters....

 

[john_morris_uk]

Oh come off it, this is a forum!!:sleeping:
Come to that what about an anchor? If one used that one could use it to navigate up creeks by stopping at places to beat the tides--- Gotta have an anchor in a thread :encouragement:
Or perhaps a kedge
Or both!!

Surely all gentleman yachtsmen watch their crew taking a boat up shallow channels. The boat is drudged backwards up the creek using an appropriate anchor, with the flow of the tidal stream over the rudder being used to manoeuvre, and with the quanting pole ascertaining where the best water lies.

This is surely why older anchors drag better. It’s very difficult to drudge using a modern anchor that grips too easily.

 

[Kukri]

Surely all gentleman yachtsmen watch their crew taking a boat up shallow channels. The boat is drudged backwards up the creek using an appropriate anchor, with the flow of the tidal stream over the rudder being used to manoeuvre, and with the quanting pole ascertaining where the best water lies.

This is surely why older anchors drag better. It’s very difficult to drudge using a modern anchor that grips too easily.

Not being a gentleman, but having a small boat with a dysfunctional Stuart Turner, I had to do it myself! On the basis of that experience, I advise leaving the anchor on deck and dropping a loop of chain into the water. You are much less likely to hook a ground chain, bicycle, etc., and you can vary your speed, and thus the amount of lateral movement in response to the helm, by varying the amount of chain that you have out.