Docking Skills
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Solitaire
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Good boat handling. Nothing wrong with it all, but the guy knows his boat.
benjenbav
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Bowthruster. What a wuss. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
geardownthreegreens
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Now i'd seen that before and was amazed, now i've just watched again and still amazed ! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
As said, the guy knows his boat and how to handle it, lovely unflustered parking.
Now i think he should let his wife do the same manoeuvre and see if the outcome is the same /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
As said, the guy knows his boat and how to handle it, lovely unflustered parking.
Now i think he should let his wife do the same manoeuvre and see if the outcome is the same /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
stefan_r
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good effort! but can imagine he hasn't quite made it a few time too....
not that reckless IMHO, just closer to the pontoon than I would go...
not that reckless IMHO, just closer to the pontoon than I would go...
MapisM
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Definitely foolish.
If at around 1:06 the port engine would have failed to engage the reverse, the video would have been waaaaay more interesting.
That aside, there's nothing so spectacular in the maneuver, aside from the sheer luck in not touching the dock at all.
If at around 1:06 the port engine would have failed to engage the reverse, the video would have been waaaaay more interesting.
That aside, there's nothing so spectacular in the maneuver, aside from the sheer luck in not touching the dock at all.
hlb
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Nothing cleaver about it at all. First he hit the bow, or very nearly did, then he'd no fenders and clouted the side on the pontoon. Other than that it was just normal stuff.
goochie
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Agreed. It's the way I was taught to do it - nearly! I would have more fenders of course - but the first year I had my boat I was on an alongside pontoon in between two other boats with about three feet either end. Got quite good at it - bit worried I've lost the knack now!!
ari
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Clever, he handled it perfectly.
Saying "what if an engine failed" is a little like saying "what if your brakes fail when parking", is it therefore foolish to ever attempt to park on a hill?
Nice job, done slowly and precisely, good for him. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Saying "what if an engine failed" is a little like saying "what if your brakes fail when parking", is it therefore foolish to ever attempt to park on a hill?
Nice job, done slowly and precisely, good for him. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
ari
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This one (linked from it) is a little less professional however!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-REHiCyIiuw&feature=related
The warning sign is the guy on the back with a boathook. I can't imagine any berthing situation (other than picking up a mooring perhaps) where wielding a boathook is a good idea! A large roving fender would have been a lot more useful.
Mind you, some numptie pointing a video camera at you is never going to help in these circumstances...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-REHiCyIiuw&feature=related
The warning sign is the guy on the back with a boathook. I can't imagine any berthing situation (other than picking up a mooring perhaps) where wielding a boathook is a good idea! A large roving fender would have been a lot more useful.
Mind you, some numptie pointing a video camera at you is never going to help in these circumstances...
B175Chris
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I've seen that happen many a time, especially in the med!
Mind you, I suspect I would do very much the same, and have done in the past - I always dock forwards, and always have someone with a boathook at hand incase I cock it up - we're only human...
Can you all claim to have been perfect at reverse parking in a marina in your early boating days?
Mind you, I suspect I would do very much the same, and have done in the past - I always dock forwards, and always have someone with a boathook at hand incase I cock it up - we're only human...
Can you all claim to have been perfect at reverse parking in a marina in your early boating days?
WindermereColvic
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This one (linked from it) is a little less professional however!
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Surly if that fella with the boat hook fell in he'd be minced befor the helm noticed?? Much safer on a raggie IMO,
Runs for shelter...
This one (linked from it) is a little less professional however!
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Surly if that fella with the boat hook fell in he'd be minced befor the helm noticed?? Much safer on a raggie IMO,
Runs for shelter...
No Regrets
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I agree with the earlier comment about 'What if'
That sort of stuff is all very well, and in fairness was nicely done, although nothing particularly outstanding compared to any decent Thames cruiser owner's regular parking.
However, and appeciating the need for 'steering speed' if anything had failed at that moment, there could have been a large cruncing, smashed boat, pontoon and on the other side, people knocked into the water possibly resulting in death or injury.
Skillful? Yes.
Entertaining? Yes.
Cavalier? Certainly...
Good watch whatever! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
That sort of stuff is all very well, and in fairness was nicely done, although nothing particularly outstanding compared to any decent Thames cruiser owner's regular parking.
However, and appeciating the need for 'steering speed' if anything had failed at that moment, there could have been a large cruncing, smashed boat, pontoon and on the other side, people knocked into the water possibly resulting in death or injury.
Skillful? Yes.
Entertaining? Yes.
Cavalier? Certainly...
Good watch whatever! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Renegade_Master
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Think I would have put a few more fenders out, good bit of berthing, shows how with enough way on and shafts berthings a doddle.
Renegade_Master
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Wait till Haydn sees this second film, the poor guy has got stern drives.
ari
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I've seen that happen many a time, especially in the med!
Mind you, I suspect I would do very much the same, and have done in the past - I always dock forwards, and always have someone with a boathook at hand in case I cock it up - we're only human...
Can you all claim to have been perfect at reverse parking in a marina in your early boating days?
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I'm not suggesting that everyone should be perfect, I'm suggesting that a boathook is an inappropriate accessory when mooring, especially in these circs. I wouldn't be very impressed if it were my boat alongside with someone stabbing at it with a boathook, or hooking it around a stanchion perhaps to haul themselves in.
As I said, in these particular circumstances a fender would have been the most appropriate tool for the crew to have held. Then he can position it in between a point of impact between the two boats rather than trying to push off with a boathook (which isn't going to work anyway). In another situation a rope (made off to the boat) might have been more appropriate to pass to someone.
But never a boathook.
I've seen that happen many a time, especially in the med!
Mind you, I suspect I would do very much the same, and have done in the past - I always dock forwards, and always have someone with a boathook at hand in case I cock it up - we're only human...
Can you all claim to have been perfect at reverse parking in a marina in your early boating days?
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I'm not suggesting that everyone should be perfect, I'm suggesting that a boathook is an inappropriate accessory when mooring, especially in these circs. I wouldn't be very impressed if it were my boat alongside with someone stabbing at it with a boathook, or hooking it around a stanchion perhaps to haul themselves in.
As I said, in these particular circumstances a fender would have been the most appropriate tool for the crew to have held. Then he can position it in between a point of impact between the two boats rather than trying to push off with a boathook (which isn't going to work anyway). In another situation a rope (made off to the boat) might have been more appropriate to pass to someone.
But never a boathook.
B175Chris
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Actually I agree, someone standing with a fender is a far better idea. In France I used to moor up side-on against a pontoon but sometimes a bit of a push or pull on the cleat from someone sitting in the bow seats saved so much bother!
Reversing however, I wouldn't use a boathook in the way shown in the video, mostly due to the danger involved for the person doing it! The video is daft but the act shown is so common in SoF! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Reversing however, I wouldn't use a boathook in the way shown in the video, mostly due to the danger involved for the person doing it! The video is daft but the act shown is so common in SoF! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Solitaire
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The use of the boat hook only exacerbated the problem. The act of pushing away with the boat hook pushed the stern out and of course the bow came round, so matey was more of a hindrance than a help. The roving fender was the obvious choice.
hlb
RIP
What the first film shows, is a shaft drive boat doing what it's good at, with a prat driving it, who got the bows far to close and had inadiquate fenders. There is no skill at all, in sticking one engine in reverse and one forwards, then watch the boat, just spin round in it's own space.
I'd have been slightly more impressed, but not much. If he had ferry glided the boat into it's berth. Better would have been, if he had induced the ferry glide from a standing start, without any way on. No bow thrusters needed.
On the other hand, the guy with the egg whisk thingy on the back, had much bigger problems to deal with, but handled them quite well. His approch would have been better, if he'd kept the bows more into the wind and backed in, just as they sraightened. Personally I'd have drove in and kept it simple.
But the prize goes to the guy in the second film, he did not hit anything, was well fendered, took it slow and tried again when he got it wrong.
The first guy was just a twat, no skill involved.
I'd have been slightly more impressed, but not much. If he had ferry glided the boat into it's berth. Better would have been, if he had induced the ferry glide from a standing start, without any way on. No bow thrusters needed.
On the other hand, the guy with the egg whisk thingy on the back, had much bigger problems to deal with, but handled them quite well. His approch would have been better, if he'd kept the bows more into the wind and backed in, just as they sraightened. Personally I'd have drove in and kept it simple.
But the prize goes to the guy in the second film, he did not hit anything, was well fendered, took it slow and tried again when he got it wrong.
The first guy was just a twat, no skill involved.
Latestarter1
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Sweet!
I saw no bowthuster tubulence in he water, and he had sufficient fenders out!
Remember boaters do no mess with outdrives in the U.S, but they can generally handle proper shaftdrive boats.
I saw no bowthuster tubulence in he water, and he had sufficient fenders out!
Remember boaters do no mess with outdrives in the U.S, but they can generally handle proper shaftdrive boats.