dockmaster
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been scouring the country for a new boat we are downsizing and have been looking at a macwester rowan crown 24 or a vivacity 24 have any of you had experience with either of these ?
do you have any experience of
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richardabeattie
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Another completely useless title! How is the forum suposed to work if you can't work out from the title what the post is about?
Gwylan
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who spoiled your evening then!
Gwylan
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Try an Achilles 24 - they are cheap, fantastic sea boats and go! No room but a great day boat or long weekend. Well I spent 6 months in one and people have crossed and continue to cross the Atlantic.
narooma
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Well obviously he didn't help..and the response was a bit sharp, but I see his point. Some peeps would have missed this because it didn't mention the topic.
Bajansailor
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My tuppence worth - I think you need to draw up a list of requirements such as size, keel configuration, budget, perhaps location (ideally you want to find one not 600 miles away) and then go and do a search on www.yachtworld.com or www.boatshed.com and see what comes up.
Some interesting boats turn up for sale on here at http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/index.htm
while this archive site http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives.htm
is good for finding out more about specific boats - wouldnt it be nice if it had every popular boat on it!
I am sure that Macwesters and Vivacitys (and all of the other bilge keelers around 22' - 26') are all good boats if they have been well looked after. There are a lot of boats available on the second hand market, so have a good trawl around, and see which ones appeal to you.
Then look at it objectively as well - dont let it just be an affair of the heart. Balance passion with logic, cost and all the other factors that might come into play.
Some interesting boats turn up for sale on here at http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/index.htm
while this archive site http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives.htm
is good for finding out more about specific boats - wouldnt it be nice if it had every popular boat on it!
I am sure that Macwesters and Vivacitys (and all of the other bilge keelers around 22' - 26') are all good boats if they have been well looked after. There are a lot of boats available on the second hand market, so have a good trawl around, and see which ones appeal to you.
Then look at it objectively as well - dont let it just be an affair of the heart. Balance passion with logic, cost and all the other factors that might come into play.
Achillesheel
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Seconded!
VicS
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Re: Vivacity 24 vs Rowan Crown
Always liked the look of the Vivacity 24, knew someone who had one many years ago. It's fairly heavy at 4200 lbs, much heavier than the Achilles 24, and I expect the nearly vertical shallow keels of the twin keeled version will limit its performance rather. The lack of side decks gives you no alternative but to go over the cabin top to get forward but makes for good spacious accommodation below. The people I knew were very upset that they could not beat me in my Sea Wych, so it's slow.
The Rowan Crown I know little about although I have known several people with Rowans. Heavier than the Vivacity at 5340lbs but a nice long keeled design. I'd avoid the version with bilge plates though. I don't know whether to regard it as a bigger and better version of the Rowan or as just a bigger version.
It cannot have been as popular as the Rowan. There are several of those in the yard but AFAIK there are no Rowan Crowns!
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Always liked the look of the Vivacity 24, knew someone who had one many years ago. It's fairly heavy at 4200 lbs, much heavier than the Achilles 24, and I expect the nearly vertical shallow keels of the twin keeled version will limit its performance rather. The lack of side decks gives you no alternative but to go over the cabin top to get forward but makes for good spacious accommodation below. The people I knew were very upset that they could not beat me in my Sea Wych, so it's slow.
The Rowan Crown I know little about although I have known several people with Rowans. Heavier than the Vivacity at 5340lbs but a nice long keeled design. I'd avoid the version with bilge plates though. I don't know whether to regard it as a bigger and better version of the Rowan or as just a bigger version.
It cannot have been as popular as the Rowan. There are several of those in the yard but AFAIK there are no Rowan Crowns!
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dockmaster
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Re: Vivacity 24 vs Rowan Crown
sorry about the title i didnt realise it would offend! Many thanks for the replies so far I have lots of experience with bigger boats but the gap between dingy and 35+ feet is new to me i wish i could afford a sadler, westerly, moody etc but all seem above my budget basicaly i have just come back after a long trip and am having to survive again in the real world - work house etc but i need to sail and soon for about 5-6 grand any ideas would be gratfully recieved
sorry about the title i didnt realise it would offend! Many thanks for the replies so far I have lots of experience with bigger boats but the gap between dingy and 35+ feet is new to me i wish i could afford a sadler, westerly, moody etc but all seem above my budget basicaly i have just come back after a long trip and am having to survive again in the real world - work house etc but i need to sail and soon for about 5-6 grand any ideas would be gratfully recieved
Tranona
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Re: Vivacity 24 vs Rowan Crown
A Rowan Crown at that sort of money, provided it is in good nick and has a decent engine is a much better bet. Very well regarded in their day, but did not sell well because the world had moved on.
A Rowan Crown at that sort of money, provided it is in good nick and has a decent engine is a much better bet. Very well regarded in their day, but did not sell well because the world had moved on.
alec
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Downsizing can be fun - you find yourself getting much closer to your mate !
The hardest bit I think is coping with much slower journey times than you have been used to. However, there are lots of pluses which you will find out one by one.
My tuppence worth as well - Hurley 22 Long Keel. Tough , tried and tested, not too slow and probably one of the best when the weather gets nasty.
The hardest bit I think is coping with much slower journey times than you have been used to. However, there are lots of pluses which you will find out one by one.
My tuppence worth as well - Hurley 22 Long Keel. Tough , tried and tested, not too slow and probably one of the best when the weather gets nasty.
chrisgee
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Re: Vivacity 24 vs Rowan Crown
Don`t worry about it -- looks like you only offended one misery with nothing better to moan about.
Good luck in your boat search. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Don`t worry about it -- looks like you only offended one misery with nothing better to moan about.
Good luck in your boat search. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
fireball
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Well, if you've got any brains then you read the post .... and if you're able to give some constructive contribution then you put it in a reply ... otherwise your just a twat!
VicS
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Re: Vivacity 24 vs Rowan Crown
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john_morris_uk
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... otherwise your just a twat!
[/ QUOTE ] Should that read, "...otherwise you're just a twat!"?
O dear, I think I am one too now...
... otherwise your just a twat!
[/ QUOTE ] Should that read, "...otherwise you're just a twat!"?
O dear, I think I am one too now...
narooma
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Well, if you've got any brains then you read the post .... and if you're able to give some constructive contribution then you put it in a reply ... otherwise your just a ****!
Strange ideas some people have on what constitutes onstructive contribution!
Strange ideas some people have on what constitutes onstructive contribution!
captainslarty
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ColinHuggins
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First 'Fireball', then 'Freewind' -
Why is it so many of out outspoken contributors are illiterate?
Even Spellcheck would help a little . . .
Why is it so many of out outspoken contributors are illiterate?
Even Spellcheck would help a little . . .