Do you can it or buy from the expensive pump

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Interested in how many of you buy your fuel in cans from normal petrol stations and hump it to the boat and jiggle syphon it in as against how many of you buy at marina prices

People with circa 1000 ltr tanks need not answer this question :)

Dennis
 
I do normally do the fuel can shuffle.

Exception was our Red Sands/Chatham trip last month - we filled up 95 litres at the MDL pump, but it was about £1.30 a litre at the time so took the (slight) hit.

Locally, I've seen Hobbs of Henley priced at £1.75!

Have a station near the boat, and a Tesco opposite the marina, so have been known to tie up on their mooring and do a couple of runs.
 
Bigplumbs said:
Interested in how many of you buy your fuel in cans from normal petrol stations and hump it to the boat and jiggle syphon it in as against how many of you buy at marina prices

People with circa 1000 ltr tanks need not answer this question :)

Dennis
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Whilst I am now in the latter category, when we had a bow rider and a cuddy in Torquay we only ever filled up with 3 x 20 litre jerry cans every visit ( I am a keep-the-tank-topped-up type) and a jiggle siphon. Only once, when the weather and sea state was so perfect in the late afternoon did we fill up from the local pump (MDL don’t sell petrol) and we swallowed £2.15 per litre .... which was exactly the reason we used the cans :ambivalence:
 
When I had small outboard boats I used the marina pumps. The few pounds saved aren’t worth risking your back for.
 
I fill cans at my local Tesco, usually, 15 litres at a time, and use a jiggle siphon into the tank....works fine for my use, especially as I don't like paying marina petrol prices! :ambivalence:
 
The lack of availability if petrol at the waterside as well as the cost of marina petrol compared to diesel were two good reasons to buy a diesel engined boat when I first did so 10 years ago. The same remains true today.
For safety reasons fuelling with petrol using jerry cans should be done only at a designated refuelling pontoon.
Marinas should act responsibly when setting petrol prices in order to encourage the use of safe refuelling facilities.
 
MartynG said:
The lack of availability if petrol at the waterside as well as the cost of marina petrol compared to diesel were two good reasons to buy a diesel engined boat when I first did so 10 years ago. The same remains true today.
For safety reasons fuelling with petrol using jerry cans should be done only at a designated refuelling pontoon.
Marinas should act responsibly when setting petrol prices in order to encourage the use of safe refuelling facilities.
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marinas maybe cant even buy at tesco retail prices
 
The owner of the 40 ft boat moored next to us turns up in a Merc Ml with a huge tank occupying the entire back of the car with seats folded down, complete with proper petrol pump filler and fills his boat up. I have no idea where he's getting the fuel from!
 
I asked a similar question over on pbo a couple of weeks ago and got flamed for filling jerry cans with petrol it seems you are ok to fill your mower/tractor/cultivator from a jerry can but not your boat! The crowd ruled it's just not safe...and proceeded to give me and health and safety lecture!!! With tesco offering 10p a litre off with in store purchases it's hard to resist!!!
 
Mostly did it from the can myself. I found it more convenient than the marina pump, where you were often queuing on a hot day.
 
Freebee said:
I asked a similar question over on pbo a couple of weeks ago and got flamed for filling jerry cans with petrol it seems you are ok to fill your mower/tractor/cultivator from a jerry can but not your boat! The crowd ruled it's just not safe...and proceeded to give me and health and safety lecture!!! With tesco offering 10p a litre off with in store purchases it's hard to resist!!!
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Quite likely due to the quantity involved, your mower will need a lot less than a boat and bear in mind how much you can leagally carry in cans. I have been turned away from filling stations several times when I had petrol boats a few years back, and too be honest I wouldn’t bother trying to get diesel for a couple of pence a litre less after having to get rid of the smell of diesel from the car when one of the cans leaked. Must have saved me about a tenner on every fill up :(
 
Boat2016 said:
Quite likely due to the quantity involved, your mower will need a lot less than a boat and bear in mind how much you can leagally carry in cans. I have been turned away from filling stations several times when I had petrol boats a few years back, and too be honest I wouldn’t bother trying to get diesel for a couple of pence a litre less after having to get rid of the smell of diesel from the car when one of the cans leaked. Must have saved me about a tenner on every fill up :(
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On the diesel front it is not a couple of pence less it is around half price so a big saving.

Morrisons diesel is 73 p per litre. Compare this with marina prices.
 
Bigplumbs said:
On the diesel front it is not a couple of pence less it is around half price so a big saving.

Morrisons diesel is 73 p per litre. Compare this with marina prices.
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Not seen diesel in any filling station that cheap in a long time, marina price was around 80ppl when I got some a few months ago, not sure where you been but sounds like they are trying it on, trouble is when buying a large amount it’s not possible to transport it easily and for a small quantity it seems hardly worth the hassle.
 
Boat2016 said:
Not seen diesel in any filling station that cheap in a long time, marina price was around 80ppl when I got some a few months ago, not sure where you been but sounds like they are trying it on, trouble is when buying a large amount it’s not possible to transport it easily and for a small quantity it seems hardly worth the hassle.
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Go to morrisons and you will see the 72p. To get it from a marina I would have to motor the boat about 1.5 hours and the price is £1.25 per litre. I fill 33 ltrs in a total of 3 cans at a time

So saving in cash is £17.49 plus don't have to motor, Moor up and possibly que. So I think if you include some for the motoring to get it I am saving about £25 per time I do it. That seems worth it to me

So much of this depends on where you are
 
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Hang on.....have I missed something....diesel at a forecourt for 72p per liter?.........its about £1.30 in Dorset....least it was last week.
 
dpb said:
Hang on.....have I missed something....diesel at a forecourt for 72p per liter?.........its about £1.30 in Dorset....least it was last week.
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What colour diesel are you looking at :). Look at morrisons and go to the pumps with no roof over them
 
petem said:
Dennis, how do you get diesel at 72p? Is that with vouchers? Also, when you buy from the pump, is £1.25 the 60/40 price?
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I get it for 72p (That was a few weeks ago so may have gone up a little in the latest hike) by going to the pump at Morrisons (The ones that say gas oil which is red diesel) with my cans and filling them up and paying the cashier.

The £1.25 was a price I saw on a pump when motoring by on the water. I have never bought from a marina pump as none very near to me and also I have always thought they are a monster rip off so not sure on the 60/40 thing

I also of course put some full tax diesel in my boat so as to ensure that I am legal and only using the red for the legal purposes
 
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Bigplumbs said:
I get it for 72p (That was a few weeks ago so may have gone up a little in the latest hike) by going to the pump at Morrisons (The ones that say gas oil which is red diesel) with my cans and filling them up and paying the cashier.

The £1.25 was a price I saw on a pump when motoring by on the water. I have never bought from a marina pump as none very near to me and also I have always thought they are a monster rip off so not sure on the 60/40 thing

I also of course put some full tax diesel in my boat so as to ensure that I am legal and only using the red for the legal purposes
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The 60/40 means that 60% is fully taxed and 40% is at a reduced tax level so you would see a considerable reduction in the marina pump price.

When you say you put some full tax diesel in your boat, what do you do fill 60% of your jerry can capacity with fully taxed diesel at the pump? In that case you haven't taken this into account in your savings above.
 
petem said:
The 60/40 means that 60% is fully taxed and 40% is at a reduced tax level so you would see a considerable reduction in the marina pump price.

When you say you put some full tax diesel in your boat, what do you do fill 60% of your jerry can capacity with fully taxed diesel at the pump? In that case you haven't taken this into account in your savings above.
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I just checked on the web and the £1.25 is the cost at the pump at 60/40 which incidentally is way too high in favour to the non tax usage

I think you need to think about the tax paid diesel I buy a little and apply it to what might really be happening in the real world

Consider this:

1 I Have receipts from petrol stations for loads of white (Full tax paid Diesel)
2 I have receipts from petrol stations for a much smaller amount of red diesel

If I argue that the red diesel was bought to power my boat heater, Fridge, Hot water etc who can prove otherwise. If I argue that a lot of the white diesel I bought went into the boat who can prove it didnt

I probably have 50 times the number of white diesel receipts I have compared to red so way below the theoretical 60/40 split
 
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