PaulRainbow
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Mine's the opposite.
Richard
Mine's completely different.
do people really replace running rigging every 10 years?
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Mine's completely different.
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macd
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Trust me, every word what I write is chosen with Shakespearean precision.
I get your point, but that's not necessarily the highest praise, Richard. Apart from freely inventing words, the bard was hugely careless about spelling. (In which he wasn't alone: English was in a state of huge flux in his time, one of the factors contributing to its literary creativity). IIRC, the seven surviving specimens of his signature include at least three different spellings, none of which is the modern one. There is thus no evidence that Shakespeare wrote "Shakespeare"
capnsensible
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Look carefully and you'll observe that the word "assume" does not appear anywhere in my post. Trust me, every word what I write is chosen with Shakespearean precision.
Richard
Of course it wasnt. It was in mine where I pointed out your assumption.
Bottom marks for you, geddit?
RichardS
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Of course it wasnt. It was in mine where I pointed out your assumption.
Bottom marks for you, geddit?
But mine was not an assumption .... it was a hypothesis. There's a world of difference.
Richard
bedouin
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Chacun a son gout
Kukri
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OK, when I started sailing, one replaced all running rigging every year, because it was natural fibre, and we could all turn an eye splice without a second thought. Conversely, galvanised plough steel standing rigging might last for decades. My ex boat is eighty years old and has had her shrouds replaced twice. She is on her third forestay though.
Present boat - halyards, pulled at the end of each season and mouse lines run in their place, can last for decades. Sheets - much more often - as soon as chafe damage occurs. The one that EVERYBODY forgets is the topping lift. You see an amazing number of manky old topping lifts. Standing rigging is six years old and I am saving up for the next lot.
Present boat - halyards, pulled at the end of each season and mouse lines run in their place, can last for decades. Sheets - much more often - as soon as chafe damage occurs. The one that EVERYBODY forgets is the topping lift. You see an amazing number of manky old topping lifts. Standing rigging is six years old and I am saving up for the next lot.
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Praxinoscope
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On my last boat all the running rigging was 12 years old and still in excellent condition, it looks and feels like new, but does have a little colour fading in some parts. But it is all removed each winter, washed with pure soap flakes rinsed thotoughly and stored hanging up over the winter.in the garage. The running rigging in my new boat will get the same treatment.
I have never understood why owners leave their running rigging in situe when the boat is laid up over winter, it really gets a hammering, must reduce it’s life and certainly isn’t nice to handle.
ghostlymoron
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Agreed, if it's off the boat half the year, it'll last twice as long. Doesn't apply to liveaboards or winter sailors obviously.
Biggles Wader
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Good point about the topping lift. I must remember to cut a few inches off it next time and thus move the chafe area along. Its about a fathom too long anyway.
Halyards and sheets can be treated the same way if you start out with them longer than required, and end for ending them every year moves those chafe points too. Hopefully I can make them last forever.
PaulRainbow
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Nope, although my next boat will be in mast. Current one has all of the lines completely external to the mast.
Kukri
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My obsession with topping lifts goes back to dealing with a salvage claim on an 87ft Alden schooner in the Med; she ended up being towed into Malta; the “horseshoe nail” was an un-moused stainless shackle on the main topping lift.
The other topping lift horror is that the continual, very slight, movement at the sheave will eventually wear through the pin. Don't ask me how I know this...
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Robert Wilson
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Praxinoscope
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I always felt the topping lift was part of the running rigging, so that’s included in the winter wash.
Dougal
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Oops! Deleted my own damn post while attempting to edit lol, but this thread was well worth reading from stem to stern, for entertainment value alone How many people I wonder, create a thread with a question that one simply MUST have an answer for, only then, to neverify be heard from again
How many people I wonder, create a thread with a question that one simply MUST have an answer for, only then, to neverify be heard from again
Dougal
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and no I'm not going to edit this bloody phones predictive spelling again lol
Biggles Wader
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Oops! Deleted my own damn post while attempting to edit lol, but this thread was well worth reading from stem to stern, for entertainment value alone
Indeed. OP was online at 1830 ish today but has elected not to clarify the question asked. I cant think why that should be.
[70521]
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Some aircraft have stuff replaced after X number of landings or Y hours in the air or Z length of time. It's called preventative maintenance.
If your insurance company requires you to replace your standing rigging after 10 years, please do it. They will ask the question when was the rigging replaced and if there is a pregnant pause at the end of the line they may not pay out for that mast that fell over on your favorite crew member and you will be funding their medical care until they die of natural causes.
You have no idea of the condition of the rigging. Running rigging is a different matter you will know when it is time to change it.
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William_H
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Certainly for a smaller boat running rigging is quite obvious when it needs to be replaced. Usually not a huge disaster if it fails. Although a break and build up of the outer sheath of polyester braid can be a problem if it jambs in a block.
Certainly no cause for mandatory replacement or even any real concern for insurance company except that bad running rigging might reflect lack of maintenance of the whole boat.
It is easy to see why people answered regarding standing rigging. I have been around my club for 33 years and observed quite a few standing rigging failures. Always resulting in mast breaking. Always in the age bracket of 20 years plus. It does seem to be more prevalent in the smaller boats although at least one 32 fter had a failure. I also cared for a fleet of 10ft training dinghies. The stay wires 1./9 1x19 lasted about 12 or 15 years. This despite about 40 hrs per year of actually being rigged and lightly loaded while sailing and stored in a shed other times.
So I am convinced that ss stay wires do have a finite life. About 15 years seems to me to be safe. This life is regardless of type of load or sailing or even if the mast is removed each winter. Wire is not so expensive compared to cost of mast replacement. However if you have any doubts I think side stays both cap and intermediate are most critical. If you want you can try replacing the cap shrouds and use the old cap shrouds cut down and re terminated for the intermediates. As failures I have seen have always been at the termination. Usually bottom.
No that is silly just buy new wire. ol'will
Certainly no cause for mandatory replacement or even any real concern for insurance company except that bad running rigging might reflect lack of maintenance of the whole boat.
It is easy to see why people answered regarding standing rigging. I have been around my club for 33 years and observed quite a few standing rigging failures. Always resulting in mast breaking. Always in the age bracket of 20 years plus. It does seem to be more prevalent in the smaller boats although at least one 32 fter had a failure. I also cared for a fleet of 10ft training dinghies. The stay wires 1./9 1x19 lasted about 12 or 15 years. This despite about 40 hrs per year of actually being rigged and lightly loaded while sailing and stored in a shed other times.
So I am convinced that ss stay wires do have a finite life. About 15 years seems to me to be safe. This life is regardless of type of load or sailing or even if the mast is removed each winter. Wire is not so expensive compared to cost of mast replacement. However if you have any doubts I think side stays both cap and intermediate are most critical. If you want you can try replacing the cap shrouds and use the old cap shrouds cut down and re terminated for the intermediates. As failures I have seen have always been at the termination. Usually bottom.
No that is silly just buy new wire. ol'will
ghostlymoron
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I've not found it possible to edit posts on my mobile: you always delete the whole post.
