rubberduck
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What sort of discount would forum members normally expect on a new boat & what would you expect to achieve in the present climate ? Talking fairline, princess, absolute around 45 ft.
Discount on list price
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Rum_Pirate
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Discount would also depend on what sort of goodies they would include rather than reduce price.
AdeOlly
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Will obviously depend on whether you're buying a stock boat or build to order. If the former, I'd have thought you could really push them, but in terms of suggesting figures, I can't really help. I'd have thought you'd getter a better discount on a UK built boat though as exchange rate will have squeezed the margin on Euro makes. Happy shopping 
Nautorius
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Princess were offering great deals on the V45 over the summer which included about £65k discount and then low rate finance with further deposit help. Worked out to be a very good deal and total saving of about 20% and with subsidised finance. Also lots of goodies free/upgraded as well.
Only know as a guy out here was considering one but bought a V65 instead and I believe the bigger it is the better the deal! I would go to Princess and ask them at SIBS, I am sure there are show deals and haggle on top of that.
Paul
Only know as a guy out here was considering one but bought a V65 instead and I believe the bigger it is the better the deal! I would go to Princess and ask them at SIBS, I am sure there are show deals and haggle on top of that.
Paul
DavidJ
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For the best deal and the most vicious bargaining have at least two boats that you would feel pretty much happy to own and vie the suppliers off against each other. It's embarassing but just keep going. Just keep thinking how long it takes to earn £10k after tax. Best nearing the end of month when sales figures have to be declared.
rubberduck
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Looks like SIBS will be fun this year, got to be some good offers going.
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A friend of mine was offered a deal which amounted to a discount of 30%+ on a stock Fairline at LIBS this year. Some stock Ferrettis were going for 35% off list earlier this year. I think these figures are at the extreme end of the range and, possibly, will not be available now as dealers have de-stocked. However, every dealer I have spoken to recently is still complaining that the middle market ie 40-50ft is very poor so there still should be attractive discounts
Nick_H
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Yep, i've heard of discounts of up to 30% on stock boats from most of the UK builders, but only on the less popular or soon to be replaced models. I think most of these stock boats have now been sold though, and eurozone buyers have woken up to the savings, so not sure you'd achieve that now.
mjf
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Is that 20% before vat or 20% all up price?
ari
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What's the difference?
jhr
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ari
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Ok, let me re-phrase it.
If you buy a £100K ex VAT boat (£115K incl. VAT) and get 20% off the incl vat price you pay £92K, yes? (20% off of £115K = £92K)
And if you get your 20% off the ex VAT price (£100K ex VAT) then it's £80K + VAT. VAT on £80K is £12K, so the boat costs you £92K, yes?
So what's the difference whether the 20% is off the ex VAT or incl. VAT price?
If you buy a £100K ex VAT boat (£115K incl. VAT) and get 20% off the incl vat price you pay £92K, yes? (20% off of £115K = £92K)
And if you get your 20% off the ex VAT price (£100K ex VAT) then it's £80K + VAT. VAT on £80K is £12K, so the boat costs you £92K, yes?
So what's the difference whether the 20% is off the ex VAT or incl. VAT price?
ari
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20% of 17.5%, shurely?
By the way, VAT is 15% these days (just to clear up any confusion on the above figures). But the principle remains the same.
PowerYachtBlog
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unless Cannes and Southampton turn out to be huge sellers, which I doubt it...
the 20-40% discount on new builds will continue, this range as someone pointed out depends the model and how popular it is
the 20-40% discount on new builds will continue, this range as someone pointed out depends the model and how popular it is
Alistairr
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Only till xmas, and then its back up to 17.5%, and then within a short time up to 20% if we know our government!!!
Al.
gjgm
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ok,but if you dont concentrate on the %...
So lets say you get £20k off
Off the ex vat price, thats 20 pct
Off the final price thats £95k, which is 17.4% off.
I think thats what MJF was querying...
I'd have thought the dealer is working off the ex vat price... vat isnt anything he benefits from.And the % story looks better!
So lets say you get £20k off
Off the ex vat price, thats 20 pct
Off the final price thats £95k, which is 17.4% off.
I think thats what MJF was querying...
I'd have thought the dealer is working off the ex vat price... vat isnt anything he benefits from.And the % story looks better!
ari
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No, he was querying percentages.
Originally Posted by mjf
Is that 20% before vat or 20% all up price?
I used to work for someone who'd always insist on knocking the percentage off of the ex VAT figure even if we were discussing incl VAT with the customer. I'd knock the percentage off of the gross figure and he'd say "no no, take it off of the ex VAT figure".
He wouldn't have it that the end VAT paid figure was the same.
gjgm
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"I got 20pct off" can give two answers, is what I am pointing out (which I took to be what he meant, but I maybe wrong)
mjf
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Exactly. On this sort of money its a lot of dosh and therefore very important that you know what the discount is - % cash off what?
Observer
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Don't see how can you get two answers. If you pay £95k that's 17.4% discount. If you pay £92k that's 20% discount.