M
MarkG
Guest
Wow, I never knew so much of this went on, thanks for the reponses so far....
snowleopard
Active member
[ QUOTE ]
...we are paying for the grey funnel line so why salute them? They should salute us...
[/ QUOTE ]
I love it. It puts me in mind of the days when AA men on bikes used to salute their members. in future naval ships should dip to all passing taxpayers!
...we are paying for the grey funnel line so why salute them? They should salute us...
[/ QUOTE ]
I love it. It puts me in mind of the days when AA men on bikes used to salute their members. in future naval ships should dip to all passing taxpayers!
kengill
New member
It was a lovely winter's day- the sleet was blowing horizontally across the Orwell as we sailed past the Orwell bridge and who should we see but Raider.... all full of lots of University Scholars getting their weekend of grey time in.
So we dipped and the Cheify sent two of the little darlings out to return the courtesy. Teaches the meaning of "being prepared in all respects to go to sea" in a particular way!!
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
So we dipped and the Cheify sent two of the little darlings out to return the courtesy. Teaches the meaning of "being prepared in all respects to go to sea" in a particular way!!
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
kengill
New member
Lift the ensign out of its holder and show it pointing downwards at the stern - there was a beautiful foto of some crumpet doing just that on the cover of YM a few years ago.
M
MarkG
Guest
[ QUOTE ]
Lift the ensign out of its holder and show it pointing downwards at the stern - there was a beautiful foto of some crumpet doing just that on the cover of YM a few years ago.
[/ QUOTE ]
Now I wonder if Lakesailor would have a photo like that about him? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Lift the ensign out of its holder and show it pointing downwards at the stern - there was a beautiful foto of some crumpet doing just that on the cover of YM a few years ago.
[/ QUOTE ]
Now I wonder if Lakesailor would have a photo like that about him? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Koeketiene
Well-known member
[ QUOTE ]
With the third, as it drew abeam, an arm appeared through the wheelhouse door giving a V-sign.
[/ QUOTE ]
I sort of know how they felt.
Seriously folks, Pompey/Solent is not the place where you want to do this kind of thing. There are plenty of yots about, we have to pay attention to loads of stuff you may not even be aware of, and it's nearly impossible to get assigned enough crew.
There is a time and a place for everything. For navy ships sailing in/out of Pompey there are more important things.
For those offended by this post - put your blue blazer on, pour another G&T, and stay the [--word removed--] away from boats.
I'd rather be sailing.
With the third, as it drew abeam, an arm appeared through the wheelhouse door giving a V-sign.
[/ QUOTE ]
I sort of know how they felt.
Seriously folks, Pompey/Solent is not the place where you want to do this kind of thing. There are plenty of yots about, we have to pay attention to loads of stuff you may not even be aware of, and it's nearly impossible to get assigned enough crew.
There is a time and a place for everything. For navy ships sailing in/out of Pompey there are more important things.
For those offended by this post - put your blue blazer on, pour another G&T, and stay the [--word removed--] away from boats.
I'd rather be sailing.
awol
Well-known member
There is a down side to this dipping business. Having dipped your ensign you should keep it dipped until the Navy respond by completing their dip.
What do you do to a moored grey funnel line with its jack upside down?
What do you do to a moored grey funnel line with its jack upside down?
TrueBlue
Well-known member
Aha, Spring has definitely sprung, the inevitable traffic about ensigns and ensuing discussions have surfaced.
In these days of mediocrity it's heartening to see that that the spirit of olde worlde chivalry is not completely dead.
In these days of mediocrity it's heartening to see that that the spirit of olde worlde chivalry is not completely dead.
Andrew_Fanner
New member
>>>
When I first went to HMS President I asked which 'ship' was the senior vessel in respect of evening colours (out of Pres' and Belfast) and was told it had never occurred to them to look out for Belfast, despite it only being four hundred yards away.
>>>
I'd assume that Belfast is not a commisioned warship and thus does not take part in evening colours.
When I first went to HMS President I asked which 'ship' was the senior vessel in respect of evening colours (out of Pres' and Belfast) and was told it had never occurred to them to look out for Belfast, despite it only being four hundred yards away.
>>>
I'd assume that Belfast is not a commisioned warship and thus does not take part in evening colours.
ColinHuggins
N/A
You've said it all - and do you recall one of Peyton's classics? Yottie sailing small boat stretching behind his back to pluck ensign staff from counter, while beyond him we see a frigate with an AB sprinting along the deck to the starn to acknowledge. Priceless!
bilbobaggins
N/A
Some years ago, coming down the Irish Sea in a trimaran, the mast fell down in the night. The pair of us worked ourselves to a standstill, getting everything hauled back aboard, stripped, bagged, and tied down, as the dawn light came.
Spent, I went below to put the kettle on - and promptly fell asleep, to be wakened by a startled yell from the other guy.
Piling back into the cockpit, there astern in the half-dawn was the sinister black shape of a big surfaced nuke submarine ( HMS Torbay ) circling round us. Clearly, the 'white hats' were trying to work out what on earth we were, and whether we needed assistance, for we had no working radio.
We had no injuries, didn't need help, and didn't know how to communicate this - and certainly didn't want a rubber boat full of marines having to paddle across, to ask us. How DO you signal that you're OK?
Then we remembered the ensign. Aware that we were being scrutinised, we clambered onto the 'suger scoop', and pointedly dipped our ensign in salute. That got the message across and - satisfied - the big black boat churned off southwards at some speed.....
We were grateful for their seamanship ( or suspicions )!!
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Spent, I went below to put the kettle on - and promptly fell asleep, to be wakened by a startled yell from the other guy.
Piling back into the cockpit, there astern in the half-dawn was the sinister black shape of a big surfaced nuke submarine ( HMS Torbay ) circling round us. Clearly, the 'white hats' were trying to work out what on earth we were, and whether we needed assistance, for we had no working radio.
We had no injuries, didn't need help, and didn't know how to communicate this - and certainly didn't want a rubber boat full of marines having to paddle across, to ask us. How DO you signal that you're OK?
Then we remembered the ensign. Aware that we were being scrutinised, we clambered onto the 'suger scoop', and pointedly dipped our ensign in salute. That got the message across and - satisfied - the big black boat churned off southwards at some speed.....
We were grateful for their seamanship ( or suspicions )!!
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
davidhand
New member
US Naval regulations require that US war ships dip in response to a dip from any vessel from a nation formally recognised by the US. However they may not dip unless responding to a similar courtesy from another vessel.
Judders
Active member
[ QUOTE ]
>>>
When I first went to HMS President I asked which 'ship' was the senior vessel in respect of evening colours (out of Pres' and Belfast) and was told it had never occurred to them to look out for Belfast, despite it only being four hundred yards away.
>>>
I'd assume that Belfast is not a commisioned warship and thus does not take part in evening colours.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well she flies the White ensign, okay so there is unlikely to be much ceremony but she should still be observing the correct times (which I believe she does).
>>>
When I first went to HMS President I asked which 'ship' was the senior vessel in respect of evening colours (out of Pres' and Belfast) and was told it had never occurred to them to look out for Belfast, despite it only being four hundred yards away.
>>>
I'd assume that Belfast is not a commisioned warship and thus does not take part in evening colours.
[/ QUOTE ]
Well she flies the White ensign, okay so there is unlikely to be much ceremony but she should still be observing the correct times (which I believe she does).
srm
Well-known member
Beating up the Sound of Sleat in wet windy weather we were overtaken first by the Royal Yacht (when our proud island nation could afford such symbols) and a little later by its escort frigate.
Dipped the ensign to both, and both responded.
About the same time (1980's) a friend had the opportunity to politely point out to the King of Norway that his Royal Yacht had not responded when they dipped their ensign to it. A year or so later the Norwegian Royal yacht responded to our salute (in Norwegian waters).
Dipped the ensign to both, and both responded.
About the same time (1980's) a friend had the opportunity to politely point out to the King of Norway that his Royal Yacht had not responded when they dipped their ensign to it. A year or so later the Norwegian Royal yacht responded to our salute (in Norwegian waters).
bilbobaggins
N/A
Someone is likely to point out here that His Majesty King Olav of Norway was President of Honour of the International Sailing Federation 'ISAF' from 1958 to 1991......
So your sailing friend was among friends.
It's the courtesies that make us civilised.
So your sailing friend was among friends.
It's the courtesies that make us civilised.
Clive_Rigden
New member
As there's no requirement to wear an ensign in home waters, why bother?
If one is waerting an ensign it should be dipped when passing, or if at anchor being passed by, a Royal Yacht, a Man-of-War or a yacht club's Flag Officer's yacht. When meeting a Squadron the ensign shall be dipped only to the Senior Officer's ship.
Well, that's that for another season !!!
If one is waerting an ensign it should be dipped when passing, or if at anchor being passed by, a Royal Yacht, a Man-of-War or a yacht club's Flag Officer's yacht. When meeting a Squadron the ensign shall be dipped only to the Senior Officer's ship.
Well, that's that for another season !!!
fireball
New member
[ QUOTE ]
yacht club's Flag Officer's yacht
[/ QUOTE ]
Bum - I have to pass them each time I leave my mooring ... or I could trundle up and down the channel to keep them on their toes ... I wonder how long it would be before I got a ticking off! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
yacht club's Flag Officer's yacht
[/ QUOTE ]
Bum - I have to pass them each time I leave my mooring ... or I could trundle up and down the channel to keep them on their toes ... I wonder how long it would be before I got a ticking off! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Achillesheel
Well-known member
My ensign ties on to the backstay - should I untie/ tie it back on?
Judders
Active member
[ QUOTE ]
My ensign ties on to the backstay - should I untie/ tie it back on?
[/ QUOTE ]
Simply pump seawater into your lazerette until the ensign is dipped and then pump it out again... surely?
My ensign ties on to the backstay - should I untie/ tie it back on?
[/ QUOTE ]
Simply pump seawater into your lazerette until the ensign is dipped and then pump it out again... surely?
stephenmartin
New member
So how do you dip the Ensign.....lower to half mast or have i missed something