Dinghy trolleys (long story)

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In view of recent posts on here regarding dinghies (and even the Libby Purvis podcast on YBW) I would like to offer the following for debate:

We're lucky to park on a very nice swinging mooring on the Orwell. Of course, this means a dinghy ride to the boat. Sometimes very wet, at other times a relaxing prequel or sequel to a nice sail.
We've got this very useful, if somewhat ugly and quite heavy rigid tender that does the job and resides in SYH's dinghy park.

So far, so good.
However, we do not have a dinghy trolley to launch or recover our dinghy (slipway). The last four years this has never been a problem as there are always several trolleys about. One in particular could have been made for us. Every week we launched/recovered our dinghy and returned the trolley to where we found it. And every week we found it where we left it the last time.
And I must admit, we have come to regard this trolley as 'ours' - sort of like adopting a stray cat.

Anyway, over the last few weeks, things seem to have changed. 'Our' dinghy had disappeared. Shock - horror. Other trolleys suddenly were all chained up. Has there been a crime wave I was not aware of? Then my youngest tracked down 'our' trolley - hidden behind a shed. We launch and recover and return the trolley to the place where it was usually parked all these years.
Next week, and the week after that it's a game of 'look for the trolley'. My youngest was getting very good at it. But a pattern was emerging - every time the trolley (which by the looks of it has been around since before the Bismarck) could be found next to a shining new Walker Bay dinghy.
Whilst it may have been fun, I was getting slightly peeved. FFS, leave the trolley alone - stop hiding it. So next time we returned we parked the trolley underneath our upturned tender. There!

Yesterday - first sail in about three weeks. The trolley's gone :eek: Enters stage left (by way of a note): Trevor. How dare we... His property... Pay for your own... I have reported... I got his drift. Trevor was not a happy camper. Never realised what a master criminal I was before.
I left Trevor a note - thanking him for the use of his trolley over the past four years - seemingly without complaints, and enquired about his sudden urge to hide it or make it unavailable.

I know, and always have known, it was not my trolley (not mine as in I haven't paid for it), but we've never damaged or abused it; just launched/recovered and returned it to where I found it. Five minutes each way was all it took. I've regarded it like picking up a vacant mooring for lunch and always ready to go at a moments notice should the real owner return. Where's the harm?

So, what's the view of the panel? Am I a dastardly cad without any respect for other peoples property and do I owe the rightly aggrieved Trevor a humble apology? Or is Trevor a selfish little so and so with no understanding of the concept of being helpful?
 
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When we first started using a mooring I asked around SYH about manifestly unused dinghies - with a view to adopting one. I was told that they had tried clearing up unused dinghies and it caused a firestorm of protest. It seems dinghies, and apparently trolleys, engender deep feelings of ownership in some people.

Cars do this too in this country. I can remember working in the US where the car park was too small and we all blocked each other in. If you needed to run a quick errand you simply took the car nearest the exit, whoever's it was. Can you see that going down here?
 
Sorry Guapa, in this case I think that you're in the wrong, especially when you hid the trolley under your dinghy!
Maybe an apology and a nice bottle of wine might get Trevor to loan you his trolley when needed - so long as you return it to wherever he left it?
 
Sorry Guapa, in this case I think that you're in the wrong, especially when you hid the trolley under your dinghy!

You're right - I shouldn't have done that.
I think I did it because I didn't feel the trolley belonged to anyone. It's been around much longer that Trevor's brand new Walker Bay - so, why was it 'his' all of a sudden?
A feeble defence, maybe.

But why the sudden urge to start hiding it are trying to make it unavailable? It's not like there has been a wave of thefts or trolleys have been damaged :confused:
 
That surely is the question - why was it Trevor's all of a sudden? Was it his all along, or not?

I don't mind finding my dinghy/trolley (we padlock one to t'other) has been moved, around the car park/dinghy park at our moorings in Cornwall, but I would take exception to anyone using either of them in my absence, I'm afraid.
 
Apart from the obvious buy your own as has been mentioned.

Then my youngest tracked down 'our' trolley - hidden behind a shed. We launch and recover and return the trolley to the place where it was usually parked all these years.

If you had returned it to behind the shed then no one would have been the wiser, and you could still be happily borrowing the aforementioned launch trolley.:)
 
Buy your own trolley. tightwad.;)
Exactly, typical middle class thing (duck) where "they" dont consider anything they do "wrong" Its a bit like the twats that used to park in my yard "only for 2 minutes" (yeah right, their clocks differed from normal ones!) and then got bent out of shape when I remonstrated with them.
Buy your own Guapa!!
Stu
 
Perhaps Trevor had just bought himself a new Walker Bay after years of some mouldy old dinghy.
I must say that I think Trevor was right - you hid the trolley under yours - which to me is tantamount to claiming it as yours. Also, the 'owner' would not find it in the place where he had left it.

In Rice and Coles, some one borrowed my trolley wheels.Permanently. Now, perhaps he just borrowed them once or twice, and noticing that I hadnt tried to use my trolley, decided to leave them on his trolley.

My dinghy is also up for replacement, and I am considering a new Walker bay.

For sale: Galvanised Folding Trolley with new wheels. £100. There is a yard one free at Bridgemarsh.
 
You said in your first post:

"Anyway, over the last few weeks, things seem to have changed. 'Our' dinghy had disappeared. "

That's a bit more serious than just losing a trolley that wasn't yours anyway.
 
You said in your first post:

"Anyway, over the last few weeks, things seem to have changed. 'Our' dinghy had disappeared. "

That's a bit more serious than just losing a trolley that wasn't yours anyway.

Perhaps someone has just borrowed it:D
 
... do I owe the rightly aggrieved Trevor a humble apology?

Yes, of course you do. You tried to claim as yours something which, as it now appears, belonged to someone else. If that kind of thing is happening, it's no wonder folk have started to lock up their property.

You might like to reconsider the meanings of and boundaries between "borrowing", "taking without owner's consent" and "theft".

My view. Sorry if it hurts, but you did ask.
 
Middle class, eh... never been called that before.
Who says 'social mobility' is dead?

Anyway, it seems pretty unanimous - Trevor's in good company.
And yep, I shouldn't have hidden the trolley under our dinghy. Way OTT.

Just a few questions for the 'buy your own' brigade:

1. Have you never picked up a vacant swinging mooring? Maybe just for lunch, or even overnight. I mean it's not yours, it's not like you've paid for it?
Ours often gets picked up - sometimes within minutes of us casting off. Do I mind? Why should I? It's not like I'm using it while I'm sailing. I used to just shout to the new resident that we would be back at such and such a time and that was the end of it. In future I will now protest in the strongest possible terms and report him somewhere.

2. There are between 30 and 40 tenders parked out there, yet there are only 5 or 6 trolleys to be found (locked or otherwise). How does everyone else launch? Am I really the only cad out there to 'borrow' a trolley? Given the fact that most boat owners seem to be old codgers and that some of the tenders are older and heavier than ours I find that hard to believe.

Anyway; Trevor can relax. We sailed over the weekend and by the looks of it Guapa will be spending the next 8 to 12 months on the hard somewhere (depending on whether I go to Afghanistan or Kosovo) and upon my heroes return I'll procure a trolley and, of course, lock and chain it up. After all, I wouldn't want the riff-raff using it.
 
Bit touchy there. I've often thought that buying my own would solve all my problems so that's what I do. Simply, I don't want to depend on too many other people.
 
A large sector of the population are extremely posessive and regard any unauthorised use of their property with great indignation. You have only to look at the number of driveways with notices saying 'no turning'. What possible harm can it do for someone to use the entrance of a drive to do a 3-point turn but to many people it is a almost a personal assault.
 
... You have only to look at the number of driveways with notices saying 'no turning'. What possible harm can it do for someone to use the entrance of a drive to do a 3-point turn but to many people it is a almost a personal assault.

I can never resist those. I always make a special effort to execute a 10-point turn with my back wheels just encroaching on their drive !
 
I agree ,with most posts to ask Trevor would have been the correct way to go edearing yourself to him rather than upsetting him. The issue with drives, is different. We have an orchard with drive opposite our local Church which people seem to think is over spill parking for the Church. This really pi**es me off, as they seem to take delight in wrecking the grass and blocking access to my property. In one instance stopping me entering my drive with my hosre trailer, horse on board. I ended up unloading in a friends farm yard after asking him and leaving my truck and trailer in his yard, untill the inconsiderate gits had left.If only they had asked, I would have allowed them to park as long as they did not block my access. Rant over
 
Do you pay SYH to leave your dinglie there? If so, suggest to 'the management' that they provide a couple of communal trollies, for their customers. It works at MDL Mercury.


But it costs 1000 quid a year to keep a dinghy at MDL Mercury, Ken!
They can probably afford a trolley or two to attract extra punters.
 
Do you pay SYH to leave your dinglie there? If so, suggest to 'the management' that they provide a couple of communal trollies, for their customers. It works at MDL Mercury.

Public/communal/club trolleys are really to everyones advantage in saving valuable space, if there was a trolley for every tender think of the clutter.
 
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