rich
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Re: Tank cleaning
yeh, but you could put your pump down into it and suuuck it out.
rich
yeh, but you could put your pump down into it and suuuck it out.
rich
Diesel Bugs
- Thread starter PGD
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ChrisP
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Our little darlin is fitted with "DE-BUG" filters. Dont know how they work but during the filter changing I couldn't find any trace of the dreaded stuff. Just drained out the bowl on the buggy thing. Put on the new filters and fired up. The seem to work ok although the literature I have has no mention about servicing the bug filters. So if anybody knows what else I should do, let me know.
ChrisP
ChrisP
PGD
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Your bug filter thing, can you give me some details - who makes it etc.
cheers
peter
cheers
peter
PGD
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Appreciate the head above the parapet bit, thanks,
look out incoming :-o
look out incoming :-o
scottie
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Re: Diesel de Bugers
Try volvo dealer for similar product or separ distribution at watford
to clean I believe that you dismantle it and clear out any rubbish
Try volvo dealer for similar product or separ distribution at watford
to clean I believe that you dismantle it and clear out any rubbish
Freebee
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Re: bugs lecture part deux
Ok so you wanna know more but how much more? The way to keep bugs from being a pain is by having good fuel housekeeping techniques. don't use poor fuel, keep tanks free of dirt and best of all keep the tanks free of water that needs to be drained from the bottom. The bugs cannot live in fuel so they inhabit the water and munch the carbon out of the fuel. Condensation is only natural so check for water bottoms regularly. The bugs have a variey of names, commonest is cladisporium resinae which is often found on pine trees. The bugs love carbon and will happily live on creosoted fences and the spores are airborne and can enter the tank when you fill up or more typically via the tank breather as you use fuel, air rushes into the tank carrying anything airborne with it. Many years ago in aircraft fuel tanks it was noticed that the secretions of the bugs were acidic and would eat through aluminium tanks hence rubber liners in aircraft tanks. So there you have it.,
Ok so you wanna know more but how much more? The way to keep bugs from being a pain is by having good fuel housekeeping techniques. don't use poor fuel, keep tanks free of dirt and best of all keep the tanks free of water that needs to be drained from the bottom. The bugs cannot live in fuel so they inhabit the water and munch the carbon out of the fuel. Condensation is only natural so check for water bottoms regularly. The bugs have a variey of names, commonest is cladisporium resinae which is often found on pine trees. The bugs love carbon and will happily live on creosoted fences and the spores are airborne and can enter the tank when you fill up or more typically via the tank breather as you use fuel, air rushes into the tank carrying anything airborne with it. Many years ago in aircraft fuel tanks it was noticed that the secretions of the bugs were acidic and would eat through aluminium tanks hence rubber liners in aircraft tanks. So there you have it.,
jfm
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
Mike you must know a lot about this. We want to know much more please, full chapter and verse.
What's your view on whether the enzyme Soltron kills the bugs? Surely it would be easier to dose all aero fuel with Soltron, than to line all tanks in rubber? But they don't, so does that mean the aero boys have doubts about Soltron's abilities? Likewise, if Soltron works why should we bother with all the effort of the housekeeping you describe, why not just bung some Solly in and forget about it?
Mike you must know a lot about this. We want to know much more please, full chapter and verse.
What's your view on whether the enzyme Soltron kills the bugs? Surely it would be easier to dose all aero fuel with Soltron, than to line all tanks in rubber? But they don't, so does that mean the aero boys have doubts about Soltron's abilities? Likewise, if Soltron works why should we bother with all the effort of the housekeeping you describe, why not just bung some Solly in and forget about it?
Freebee
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
don't know that much about soltron only what I have read here if its that good how come there are no testimonials from big diesel consumers -train operators for example they all have the same problems,but to get something approved for aviation fuel requires extensive testing to prove it does not have any unwanted side effects. it would take many years to get approval. My guess would be if soltron kills the bugs there would be debris which would be a contaminant for filtration.
But all this really a big yawn the forum has gone round this loop so many times. The truth is if you care enough to buy and use soltron you are probably also practising the housekeeping tasks as well and are unlikely to experience problems.
don't know that much about soltron only what I have read here if its that good how come there are no testimonials from big diesel consumers -train operators for example they all have the same problems,but to get something approved for aviation fuel requires extensive testing to prove it does not have any unwanted side effects. it would take many years to get approval. My guess would be if soltron kills the bugs there would be debris which would be a contaminant for filtration.
But all this really a big yawn the forum has gone round this loop so many times. The truth is if you care enough to buy and use soltron you are probably also practising the housekeeping tasks as well and are unlikely to experience problems.
rich
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
solly is anew product to this part of the world,it comes from the japs.
rich
solly is anew product to this part of the world,it comes from the japs.
rich
longjohnsilver
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
Not that new, it's been around 3 or 4 years or more.
Not that new, it's been around 3 or 4 years or more.
coliholic
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
Well we've been talking about it for that long anyway. Leastways it seems like it,
Well we've been talking about it for that long anyway. Leastways it seems like it,
longjohnsilver
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
Suppose you've still got your bottle at home, have you tried any yet?
Suppose you've still got your bottle at home, have you tried any yet?
rich
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
nearly 5 years but try telling em' how good it is, nobody will believe me.
rich
nearly 5 years but try telling em' how good it is, nobody will believe me.
rich
DepSol
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
Alledgedly aproved by Turkish Aviation Authority but CAA approval takes min 2 yrs approval, and expensive testing.
Try asking K Le Brett, co. in south of England who do CAA testing about it.
Who says the fuel companies aren't interested?
Dom
PS Solton is an enzyme, how many times do I have to say this before it sinks in. Lets make it easy for some of you. Saliva is an enzyme which breaks down your food for digestion. Soltron is an enzyme which digests microbial growth sludge etc before it is burnt in the combustion process therefore no residue left by bug....read prev posts people who have used it say 'cleaned out my tank' etc etc.
What makes me laugh is the more times I prove that it works the more evidence people ask for. Most critics on this forum have never seen the stuff let alone tried it!
I could take the stick much better from people who could scientifically prove that it doesn't work cos I can scientifically prove that it does
PPS As far as bug killing and cleaning engine goes read PBO report prev posted on this forum
Happy reading folks.
Alledgedly aproved by Turkish Aviation Authority but CAA approval takes min 2 yrs approval, and expensive testing.
Try asking K Le Brett, co. in south of England who do CAA testing about it.
Who says the fuel companies aren't interested?
Dom
PS Solton is an enzyme, how many times do I have to say this before it sinks in. Lets make it easy for some of you. Saliva is an enzyme which breaks down your food for digestion. Soltron is an enzyme which digests microbial growth sludge etc before it is burnt in the combustion process therefore no residue left by bug....read prev posts people who have used it say 'cleaned out my tank' etc etc.
What makes me laugh is the more times I prove that it works the more evidence people ask for. Most critics on this forum have never seen the stuff let alone tried it!
I could take the stick much better from people who could scientifically prove that it doesn't work cos I can scientifically prove that it does
PPS As far as bug killing and cleaning engine goes read PBO report prev posted on this forum
Happy reading folks.
Freebee
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
As I represent my company on the UK aviation fuels committee I can say that there are is no push in the uk to get CAA approval for soltron that I am aware of. This is understandable since there are already several approved bug killers. One used by the military is FSII an additive used for another purpose Fuel system icing inhibiter basically an ether . and to throw in another name not mentioned on this forum before biobor. There are internet sites for Biobor which is US product widely used in aviation for 20 or more years for bug killing with all the necessary CAA approvals. Biobor may be cheaper!!
As I represent my company on the UK aviation fuels committee I can say that there are is no push in the uk to get CAA approval for soltron that I am aware of. This is understandable since there are already several approved bug killers. One used by the military is FSII an additive used for another purpose Fuel system icing inhibiter basically an ether . and to throw in another name not mentioned on this forum before biobor. There are internet sites for Biobor which is US product widely used in aviation for 20 or more years for bug killing with all the necessary CAA approvals. Biobor may be cheaper!!
rich
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Re: Question from back of class to lecturer
o'no here we go again.
rich
o'no here we go again.
rich
ArthurWood
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I think it's made in NZ, but take a look at
http://www.morison.com.au/De-Bug.htm
heard they are good, but no pers exp.
http://www.morison.com.au/De-Bug.htm
heard they are good, but no pers exp.
