Definition of a "Classic"
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Poignard
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Re: Definition of a \"Classic\"
I can't think of a better definition than this [from an on-line dictionary]:
"Classic: Serving as a standard of excellence. Of recognized value"
I can't think of a better definition than this [from an on-line dictionary]:
"Classic: Serving as a standard of excellence. Of recognized value"
bigwow
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Re: Definition of a \"Classic\"
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Following a recent post by Snoopy.
I got to thinking what is a Classic?
So, has any one tried to define a "Classic" then?
30 years old min?
Popular design?
Still sought after (holds value)?
Famous designer?
What do you think?
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Says "Classic" on the side of my Iveco van!
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Following a recent post by Snoopy.
I got to thinking what is a Classic?
So, has any one tried to define a "Classic" then?
30 years old min?
Popular design?
Still sought after (holds value)?
Famous designer?
What do you think?
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Says "Classic" on the side of my Iveco van!
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Well, I can tell ya what it aint.............
The nautical equivalent of a MK3 Cortina! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Well, I can tell ya what it aint.............
The nautical equivalent of a MK3 Cortina! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Searush
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Well, I can tell ya what it aint.............
The nautical equivalent of a MK3 Cortina! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Yet the old "aircraft carrier" coke bottle Cortinas are collectable! I know what you mean tho' when I "upgraded" from a mk2 to a mk3 I was quite dissapointed. It was faster but wallowed dreadfully.
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Well, I can tell ya what it aint.............
The nautical equivalent of a MK3 Cortina! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Yet the old "aircraft carrier" coke bottle Cortinas are collectable! I know what you mean tho' when I "upgraded" from a mk2 to a mk3 I was quite dissapointed. It was faster but wallowed dreadfully.
Poignard
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Re: Definition of a \"Classic\"
Sheem to remember a car that was called a Ford "Classic" [which it wasn't].
Sheem to remember a car that was called a Ford "Classic" [which it wasn't].
halcyon
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Re: Definition of a \"Classic\"
When your in the boat yard, and stangers stop and talk, you have a classic or a very odd boat, if they walk past you have a Cortina.
My best to-date is the chap who said, "your boat ? last time I saw her we were anchored in a bay of Guatemala."
Brian
When your in the boat yard, and stangers stop and talk, you have a classic or a very odd boat, if they walk past you have a Cortina.
My best to-date is the chap who said, "your boat ? last time I saw her we were anchored in a bay of Guatemala."
Brian
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Some people will collect anything! Don't mean that what they collect is a classic.................
Generally, just means that somebody else in their family, has the one working brain cell! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Personally, I think the term "Classic", has been grossly degraded in recent times, most people these days wouldn't know a classic from their back sides!
As we are really talking about boats, here is what I consider a classic. It would be built or designed pre WW2, and built in wood.
There are more recent vessels built along classic lines, some in wood and some in other materials, the Folk Boat would seem to me to be a good example, they to me are not classics, but they along with many others are very nice boats just the same.
I know there are people that consider cars etc. over 25 years old as classics, but I just think that is to make people that own old bangers feel better! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Still, all the above is just my opinion, (I don't do humble ones)................
Some people will collect anything! Don't mean that what they collect is a classic.................
Generally, just means that somebody else in their family, has the one working brain cell! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Personally, I think the term "Classic", has been grossly degraded in recent times, most people these days wouldn't know a classic from their back sides!
As we are really talking about boats, here is what I consider a classic. It would be built or designed pre WW2, and built in wood.
There are more recent vessels built along classic lines, some in wood and some in other materials, the Folk Boat would seem to me to be a good example, they to me are not classics, but they along with many others are very nice boats just the same.
I know there are people that consider cars etc. over 25 years old as classics, but I just think that is to make people that own old bangers feel better! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Still, all the above is just my opinion, (I don't do humble ones)................
Richard Shead
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So do you think you could build a "classic"?
So do you think you could build a "classic"?
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So do you think you could build a "classic"?
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Nope! Couldn't afford to, champagne taste and beer money! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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So do you think you could build a "classic"?
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Nope! Couldn't afford to, champagne taste and beer money! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
halcyon
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Re: Definition of a \"Classic\"
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As we are really talking about boats, here is what I consider a classic. It would be built or designed pre WW2, and built in wood.
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But pre WW2 they were new boats, made in a easly worked material.
To them a Victorian built boat would be a classic.
But then when that was built it was state of the art, made in the best material the builder knew.
So should a 1850 built boat be a classic in the material available then wood.
By putting an age on the point a boat becomes a classic, you have a never point, because it was a new build then to chaps best idea.
A classic is a diffewrant thing to everyone, it's the old saying,
beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Brian
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As we are really talking about boats, here is what I consider a classic. It would be built or designed pre WW2, and built in wood.
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But pre WW2 they were new boats, made in a easly worked material.
To them a Victorian built boat would be a classic.
But then when that was built it was state of the art, made in the best material the builder knew.
So should a 1850 built boat be a classic in the material available then wood.
By putting an age on the point a boat becomes a classic, you have a never point, because it was a new build then to chaps best idea.
A classic is a diffewrant thing to everyone, it's the old saying,
beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Brian
Lakesailor
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Re: Definition of a \"Classic\"
Loads of cobblers talked about "classics"
People will always talk the definition down to include their own pile of crap.
A classic is not a common thing. There aren't an awful lot about.
There are a lot of old boats though.
Loads of cobblers talked about "classics"
People will always talk the definition down to include their own pile of crap.
A classic is not a common thing. There aren't an awful lot about.
There are a lot of old boats though.
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Beauty is definately in the eye of the beholder, but it doesn't mean that what the belolder considers to be a classic is one. Your point about the blokes building the pre war boat thinking that a Victorian vessel would be a classic is not really relevant.
We are talking about what should be deemed a classic today. as I said previously, there are a lot of VERY nice boats around, some built on classic lines, but I don't think they can be truly called a classic, without the age parameter that I previously described.
It may be true to say that boats can be all things to all men, but to me, a classic boat is one that is as I already said, Built or designed pre WW2 and built in wood.
As I also already said, all this is just my not very humble opinion.............
Charlie.
Beauty is definately in the eye of the beholder, but it doesn't mean that what the belolder considers to be a classic is one. Your point about the blokes building the pre war boat thinking that a Victorian vessel would be a classic is not really relevant.
We are talking about what should be deemed a classic today. as I said previously, there are a lot of VERY nice boats around, some built on classic lines, but I don't think they can be truly called a classic, without the age parameter that I previously described.
It may be true to say that boats can be all things to all men, but to me, a classic boat is one that is as I already said, Built or designed pre WW2 and built in wood.
As I also already said, all this is just my not very humble opinion.............
Charlie.
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Loads of cobblers talked about "classics"
People will always talk the definition down to include their own pile of crap.
A classic is not a common thing. There aren't an awful lot about.
There are a lot of old boats though.
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You wouldn't be being contentious would you Phil? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Loads of cobblers talked about "classics"
People will always talk the definition down to include their own pile of crap.
A classic is not a common thing. There aren't an awful lot about.
There are a lot of old boats though.
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You wouldn't be being contentious would you Phil? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Spars
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My first wife!
My first wife!
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My first wife!
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"Rigadoon"........Old.............you sure it aint "Rigamortice"?
Old? Hmmmmmm like it, much better than "Classic" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Maybe this should just be the old boats forum? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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My first wife!
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"Rigadoon"........Old.............you sure it aint "Rigamortice"?
Old? Hmmmmmm like it, much better than "Classic" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Maybe this should just be the old boats forum? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Casey
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Re: Definition of a \"Classic\"
Careful with your definitions. The oldest ferrocement boat still afloat was built in or around 1855! Is this a classic?
Careful with your definitions. The oldest ferrocement boat still afloat was built in or around 1855! Is this a classic?
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Careful with your definitions. The oldest ferrocement boat still afloat was built in or around 1855! Is this a classic?
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Hmmmm, that sounds interesting, got any more information / Pics?
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Careful with your definitions. The oldest ferrocement boat still afloat was built in or around 1855! Is this a classic?
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Hmmmm, that sounds interesting, got any more information / Pics?
Casey
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Re: Definition of a \"Classic\"
Take a look at http://www.ferroboats.com/ but be careful you might just fall in love with one.
I read recently that a ferrocement yacht had just returned to the UK having completed 65000 miles in 25 years and it was still in good nick!
Take a look at http://www.ferroboats.com/ but be careful you might just fall in love with one.
I read recently that a ferrocement yacht had just returned to the UK having completed 65000 miles in 25 years and it was still in good nick!
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I have been having a bit of a sly look at one that I believe is still for sale, it's a Maurice Griffiths design, and the asking price is very reasonable, but being a wood butcher by trade, I do find the medium a bit alien. I understand how strong they are etc. At least if built by somebody who knows what they are doing, but I also know that they are quite difficult to sell on. I aint worried about the Insurance Companies having a wobble, as I feel that it's up to me to make sure that I never need to use them.
I quite like the idea of some bugger shouting "Starboard" at me, and just being able to smile, and call back "Yeah Right". /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I have been having a bit of a sly look at one that I believe is still for sale, it's a Maurice Griffiths design, and the asking price is very reasonable, but being a wood butcher by trade, I do find the medium a bit alien. I understand how strong they are etc. At least if built by somebody who knows what they are doing, but I also know that they are quite difficult to sell on. I aint worried about the Insurance Companies having a wobble, as I feel that it's up to me to make sure that I never need to use them.
I quite like the idea of some bugger shouting "Starboard" at me, and just being able to smile, and call back "Yeah Right". /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif