Deck shoes - double knots on the laces?

[BlueSkyNick]

On the subject of very long threads and locking turns, I find the leather laces on deck shoes are best tied with a double knot. Even these work loose over a period of time and they have to be retied.

The extra length provided by the shoe manufacturers seems to be a waste of leather to me.

I don't get how people can walk around with them not tied at all - uncomfortable and unsafe, I should think.

What is the norm, if there is one?

 

[jimi]

I've taken to using non marking squash shoes when on board and keep deck shoes for going to the pub to pose!

 

[nigelmercier]

Perhaps you missed this:

How to tie your shoes

Like many other people, it seems I have been doing a Granny Bow in my laces for my entire life! Since using this new technique, they have never come undone.

 

[jordanbasset]

On the subject of very long threads and locking turns, I find the leather laces on deck shoes are best tied with a double knot. Even these work loose over a period of time and they have to be retied.

The extra length provided by the shoe manufacturers seems to be a waste of leather to me.

I don't get how people can walk around with them not tied at all - uncomfortable and unsafe, I should think.

What is the norm, if there is one?

But there is where you are going wrong, you should wear crocs (imitation obviously)

 

[BlueSkyNick]

But there is where you are going wrong, you should wear crocs (imitation obviously)

I own one pair of Crocs which wont be replaced. I quickly relegated them from wearing in public to deck cleaning only. Now they are used for shuffling around the garden, shed, and garage and wont be replaced when they die completely.

 

[Ex-SolentBoy]

Doesn't everyone know that the only way to tie deck shoes is with a reef knot?

The long end are then finished with a decorative stopper knot and the shoes then become slip ons.

I was taught this by a teenager 20 years ago, and we all know that they know everything.

 

[fantasia7628]

I would have hoped that most sailors would know how to tie a reef bow rather than a granny bow.

 

[jordanbasset]

I like the look of this knot, very nice, especially with the different coloured laces
http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm
Until I researched this I had no idea how complicated tying a shoe lace was, but now know where I have been going wrong

 

[binch]

Shoes

Shoes with lacdes are dangerous in yachts. Twice I have seen serious accidents because the loop of a lace has caught on a cleat.
In addition, when called out for a night watch or change of sail, you do not want to put on the lights to tie a knot. Just slip on proper deck shoes. You do not need to make a fashion statement.

 

[prv]

Just slip on proper deck shoes.

Trouble is, they slip off just as well.

I tie mine tight enough to keep them on my feet, and tie a double knot mostly to use up the extra length so the loops are too small to catch on anything.

Pete

 

[GrumpyOldGit]

AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaRGH ...Splash !!

But there is where you are going wrong, you should wear crocs (imitation obviously)

Most deadly pieces of kit available. Cannot even wear to the local Tesco in dampness without risking life and limb..

I call them ' Mocs ' cause they are sure not deck shoes...

 

[reginaldon]

Since Dylan's thread I've done a mod. of his method ie. right over left and finished a single bow in the usual way - now no further problems.

Howbeit, on board I generally wear a pair of Bewise canvas shoes fastened by velcro - price £5.

 

[nigelmercier]

I would have hoped that most sailors would know how to tie a reef bow rather than a granny bow.

I guess that I just used the same method I've been doing since I was 3, when I didn't know what a granny was, apart from my father's mother.

 

[BlueSkyNick]

Shoes with lacdes are dangerous in yachts. Twice I have seen serious accidents because the loop of a lace has caught on a cleat.
In addition, when called out for a night watch or change of sail, you do not want to put on the lights to tie a knot. Just slip on proper deck shoes. You do not need to make a fashion statement.

Yep, SWMBO had a nasty all onto a pontoon when her shoe got caught on a cleat as she stepped off.

But what are "proper deck shoes" ?

 

[Sybarite]

On the subject of very long threads and locking turns, I find the leather laces on deck shoes are best tied with a double knot. Even these work loose over a period of time and they have to be retied.

The extra length provided by the shoe manufacturers seems to be a waste of leather to me.

I don't get how people can walk around with them not tied at all - uncomfortable and unsafe, I should think.

What is the norm, if there is one?

Someone pointed out to me that if I did the starting knot the other way round it would hold much better.

 

[Sybarite]

I like the look of this knot, very nice, especially with the different coloured laces
http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm
Until I researched this I had no idea how complicated tying a shoe lace was, but now know where I have been going wrong

This is how SWMBO taught daughter. And she's new (relatively) to sailing.

 

[maby]

I would have hoped that most sailors would know how to tie a reef bow rather than a granny bow.

Doesn't everyone? (Says he, who only learned the difference a couple of weeks ago )

 

[BarryH]

Marry an Irish woman with family in Athlone, you can get Dubarry's sent from the factory at 40 quid a pair. I've gon for the slip-on variety this time. A lot easier than trying to ties soggy leather.
Theres a shop in New Malden, a work wear shop, that does excellent deck shoes for 35 quid. The leather dries really quickly and is nice and soft. Made in Northampton tooboot!
They actually come with lace tying instructions for a variety of knots and finishes......would you credit it?

 

[ratbag]

Perhaps you missed this:

How to tie your shoes

Like many other people, it seems I have been doing a Granny Bow in my laces for my entire life! Since using this new technique, they have never come undone.

well you learn something new every day

 

[oldbilbo]

On the subject of very long threads and locking turns, I find the leather laces on deck shoes are best tied with a double knot. Even these work loose over a period of time and they have to be retied.

The extra length provided by the shoe manufacturers seems to be a waste of leather to me.

I don't get how people can walk around with them not tied at all - uncomfortable and unsafe, I should think.

What is the norm, if there is one?

Quiet Sunday in Lymington....?