deck-saloon or center-cockpit sailing liveaboard

Have you thought of a Victory 40? www.victory40.co.uk . Thought of as the ultimate cruising boat when they appeared in the early seventies, they were built like a monument to posterity.... In many respects the design still works very well...though as with any long-keeled boat...getting in and out of marinas can be interesting... You can get an awful lot of boat for a very reasonable price....Number 33 in Yachting Monthly`s best 100 boats of the 20th century.
Spot on NOHOH. I had one for a number of years - bloody marvelous boats. Mine had a covered cockpit and a big perkins 4236 - would go anywhere to windward in a force 8 under engine of course, and was remarkably fast in stronger winds - the only boat I have done 200 miles in one day in. - not bad for a 70's motor sailer. Also Called Trintella 4. dutch built
 
Looking at various Liveaboard options I really like the idea of a deck-saloon but can't find anything in the size range (35-39') that has layout that is anything like as usable as a more traditional center-cockpit layout.

It's only when you get 42'+ that deck-saloons seem to work well but maybe I have been looking at the wrong boats.

I want a comfortable and decent master cabin (either forward or aft) along with a usable second cabin (that can have 2 singles or a double). As always, lots of storage/locker space. GRP preferred.

Any thoughts on this?

Budget is up to 50-60K

Perhaps : http://fr.eyb-boats.com/voiliers/yachting-france/jouet-10-40-ms
 
Looking at various Liveaboard options I really like the idea of a deck-saloon but can't find anything in the size range (35-39') that has layout that is anything like as usable as a more traditional center-cockpit layout.

It's only when you get 42'+ that deck-saloons seem to work well but maybe I have been looking at the wrong boats.

Endurance 35 - English or French built. There is another built by Blondercell but can't think of the name, hens teeth and £$£$£ come to mind on that one.

I want a comfortable and decent master cabin (either forward or aft) along with a usable second cabin (that can have 2 singles or a double). As always, lots of storage/locker space. GRP preferred.

Any thoughts on this?

Budget is up to 50-60K
 
My old boat in the avatar is a Moody built Cavalier from the 70s which I sold in 1980.

Similar to the Halberdier but with a deck saloon and sloop rig so she sailed much better. Not much storage space though.

Hi James hope you and Ruth are both well. I checked-out Dolphin when in SCM last week after the high winds and she looked just fine. See you out there soon! Sorry to OP for drift....
 
Looking at various Liveaboard options I really like the idea of a deck-saloon but can't find anything in the size range (35-39') that has layout that is anything like as usable as a more traditional center-cockpit layout.

It's only when you get 42'+ that deck-saloons seem to work well but maybe I have been looking at the wrong boats.

I want a comfortable and decent master cabin (either forward or aft) along with a usable second cabin (that can have 2 singles or a double). As always, lots of storage/locker space. GRP preferred.

Any thoughts on this?

Budget is up to 50-60K

Have a look at a Moody 36 centre cockpit - two double cabins, two heads/showers, big saloon and very easy to handle - I went round the world in one often single handing - there is not a modern boat on the market to touch them IMO. more here: http://www.michaelbriant.com/sale.htm
 
In the centre cockpit category I'm surprised no-one mentioned the Beneteau Oceanis CC range . There are multiple models, 36CC, 40CC, 42CC and 44CC. Good spacious boats, quite a few made so plenty about on the secondhand market. Many were used for liveaboard in the Med and further afield. Friends of ours went four years liveaboard on a 36CC around the UK, the Med and Norway. 36CC's seem to in the £40-50k area at the moment.
 
In the centre cockpit category I'm surprised no-one mentioned the Beneteau Oceanis CC range . There are multiple models, 36CC, 40CC, 42CC and 44CC. Good spacious boats, quite a few made so plenty about on the secondhand market. Many were used for liveaboard in the Med and further afield. Friends of ours went four years liveaboard on a 36CC around the UK, the Med and Norway. 36CC's seem to in the £40-50k area at the moment.

Just selling a 36CC at the moment.

£40k-£50k will get you a slightly tired version. Better equipped / maintained ones selling for low to mid £50ks. Good internal space, sheltered cockpit, good headroom, stunning galley for a 36. 2 Good doubles but slightly short on locker space with that number in board. OK for 4 for a couple of weeks but not enough for 4 living aboard long term.

Lack of decent deck lockers - nothing large enough to stow a dinghy for example and baby stay makes foredeck stowage impossible. Really need davits if a dinghy is to feature large in your plans.
 
Good man. Nothing wrong with davits, best place for a dink I'm a big fan, use the lockers and deck space for other things. 36/40CC was on our shortlist for our liveaboard stint (Moody 376, a Southerly and an IP were the others) and in the end we got a deal on an IP and haven't regretted it, but it's a lot more money without a doubt. Still like the Bene CC's, good luck with the sale.
 
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