GazzaUK
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Humour
Of
Bypass
Sense
Of
Bypass
Sense
Death on board?
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BlueSkyNick
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Yep, but temporary on this post only.
The other side of the coin is a
Bypass
Sensitivity
and
Respect.
Works both ways, I'd say.
The other side of the coin is a
Bypass
Sensitivity
and
Respect.
Works both ways, I'd say.
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Largslout
Guest
Hmmm... It's my sense of humour. Over thirty years I have dealt with 3 deaths on board as Commander, the last being most upsetting. Any Doctors on the forum will understand the humour. Sorry if it upset anyone.
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Largslout
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I don't like you calling me an arsehole. It was clear from the /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif that it was said as a joke even if a poor one. Once again I am sorry if it caused offence to anyone.
tcm
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*Each* crewmember? I spose they oughta be named, perhaps.... and surely you'd only need n-1 body bags? The last guy alive would have to be a bit nerdy if hm, i'm feeling bit peeky meself with all these dead bodies lying about, perhaps i'll zip myself into a bodybag tonite instead of sleeping bag...
Sandyman
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Has anyone given thought as to the effects on the crew of having a decomposing body stowed onboard ? Especially if the body is that of a close relative ?
EdWingfield
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Contact the adjacent State by radio. Let them know the situation. If out of range request a ship to do it by satellite. A doctor will need to verify natural causes. The body may be required to be returned to the family.
Some ships carry doctors and morgues, you may be in luck.
Some ships carry doctors and morgues, you may be in luck.
nct1
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I would not worry, Largslout.
Moody by name, moody by ...... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Moody by name, moody by ...... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
BurnitBlue
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Cling film works as a temporary body bag. Keep the rest of the roll seperate.
absit_omen
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in cases like this it is not unknown for the survivor of a spouse death to chuck themselves overboard overwhelmed by grief.
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You have not met my spouse.
in cases like this it is not unknown for the survivor of a spouse death to chuck themselves overboard overwhelmed by grief.
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You have not met my spouse.
RestlessL
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What do you do if one of the crew dies whilst you are on a long passage? Do you bury them at sea or do you keep the body on board to be handed over to the authorities?
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The MCA Ship Captain's Medical Guide has a chapter on just this topic.
What do you do if one of the crew dies whilst you are on a long passage? Do you bury them at sea or do you keep the body on board to be handed over to the authorities?
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The MCA Ship Captain's Medical Guide has a chapter on just this topic.
BlueSkyNick
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I don't like you calling me an arsehole. It was clear from the /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif that it was said as a joke even if a poor one. Once again I am sorry if it caused offence to anyone.
[/ QUOTE ]I do apologise to you. It was a moment of tetchiness at the time. It's the frustration of not being able to go sailing that does it !
I don't like you calling me an arsehole. It was clear from the /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif that it was said as a joke even if a poor one. Once again I am sorry if it caused offence to anyone.
[/ QUOTE ]I do apologise to you. It was a moment of tetchiness at the time. It's the frustration of not being able to go sailing that does it !
PuffTheMagicDragon
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The MCA Ship Captain's Medical Guide has a chapter on just this topic.
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The major problem is that it is addressed, as the title says, to the Captains of ships - where freezers are not uncommon.
Lot of useful advice, however, much of which has been outlined above, albeit in a less formal structure.
The MCA Ship Captain's Medical Guide has a chapter on just this topic.
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The major problem is that it is addressed, as the title says, to the Captains of ships - where freezers are not uncommon.
Lot of useful advice, however, much of which has been outlined above, albeit in a less formal structure.
BlueChip
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On a serious note if you were unfortunate enough to lose a crewmember overboard and they cannot be recovered its really important not to lose sight of the body until assistance arrives.
Without a body there can be no death certificate for many years and this causes no end of financial problems for the family of the deceased
Without a body there can be no death certificate for many years and this causes no end of financial problems for the family of the deceased
Mariner69
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One point, do not make the mistake that one ship did. They placed the body on the wooden gratings covering the floor in the deep freeze. Over the next week the body froze solidly to the gratings.
When the ship got to the French port they tried to land the body to the authorities. The body had become stuck to the wood and they couldn't carry the body out of the door as the gratings made it too big to fit in any direction. They then cut the gratings to get the body out.
The next problem was that the ship had discharged its cargo and wanted to sail but the police refused to let it go until the post mortum was completed and delayed the ship at a cost of about USD25,000 per day while the body defrosted.
I was running the ship owner's insurance department at that time and was trying to find and persuade the authorities to use an industrial microwave to defrost the body for the PM. The cost of the three day delay was not covered if I recall correctly.
When the ship got to the French port they tried to land the body to the authorities. The body had become stuck to the wood and they couldn't carry the body out of the door as the gratings made it too big to fit in any direction. They then cut the gratings to get the body out.
The next problem was that the ship had discharged its cargo and wanted to sail but the police refused to let it go until the post mortum was completed and delayed the ship at a cost of about USD25,000 per day while the body defrosted.
I was running the ship owner's insurance department at that time and was trying to find and persuade the authorities to use an industrial microwave to defrost the body for the PM. The cost of the three day delay was not covered if I recall correctly.
damo
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In a related situation ie an isolated group (in this case a polar base several months from re-supply) where 2 were killed in a crevasse fall. The decision was taken not to recover the bodies, mainly because of the effect on base morale to have them in the freezer room for the rest of the winter.
footsoldier
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Unless within - say -a day of land, there is no place for a dead body on a small boat. Be assured, from someone who has considerable experience of dead bodies, the boat would rapidly become untenable, even in temperate climes (I won't go into unpleasant detail). Forget about body bags, they cannot contain the putrefaction.
Very wise advice already posted to photograph and document, but then, sadly, there is only one place - over the side.
Very wise advice already posted to photograph and document, but then, sadly, there is only one place - over the side.
Leighb
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That must be some clingfilm roll /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Unless you have the largest stock on any yacht I would think it might manage a rat corpse but not human /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Unless you have the largest stock on any yacht I would think it might manage a rat corpse but not human /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Searush
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A crate wrapping roll would do the job a treat & not take up too much room. Would also double as an emergency leak fixer, spare spinnaker or dodgers.
westernman
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*Each* crewmember? I spose they oughta be named, perhaps.... and surely you'd only need n-1 body bags? The last guy alive would have to be a bit nerdy if hm, i'm feeling bit peeky meself with all these dead bodies lying about, perhaps i'll zip myself into a bodybag tonite instead of sleeping bag...
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Nope. The regulations required for n crew n body bags!
If you had only n-1 you did not get the certficate (MCA Cat 0 for commercial yacht)!
*Each* crewmember? I spose they oughta be named, perhaps.... and surely you'd only need n-1 body bags? The last guy alive would have to be a bit nerdy if hm, i'm feeling bit peeky meself with all these dead bodies lying about, perhaps i'll zip myself into a bodybag tonite instead of sleeping bag...
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Nope. The regulations required for n crew n body bags!
If you had only n-1 you did not get the certficate (MCA Cat 0 for commercial yacht)!
