Dangerous/Non Dangerous wrecks?

[Ammonite]

UOTE="HissyFit, post: 7552785, member: 180229"]
Dangerous to trawlers maybe. I doubt that pleasure craft will have anything on them that will reach deep enough, but it's best s aybe. I doubt that pleasure craft will have anything on them that will reach deep enough, but it's best to avoid the area if possible. Of course, the depth given will be at MHWS. Given the lowest astronomical tide, combined with a swell, actual depths will vary.
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All of these wrecks are dangerous to trawlers. Mangled metal and nets towed along the bottom dont mix regardless of whether they are marked as dangerous
Incidentally I think you mean chart datum for depths. MHWS is for heights.

 

[Thistle]

Although this one's a bit nearer the surface, it illustrates another potential danger Fears grow that WW2 wreck could explode on Kent coast

 

[MystyBlue2]

I would love to see that wreck! Nothing like that up north

 

[Rum Run]

I would love to see that wreck! Nothing like that up north

if it went bang at low water you might see a few bits up north i suppose ?

 

[Uricanejack]

The Richard Montgomery, came to mind as soon as I read the title.

WW2 ammunition ship. Passed it many times, on the way up to the Isle Of Grain.

 

[MystyBlue2]

Awesome piece of british heritage! Definitely on my bucket list to see on my own boat.

 

[PetiteFleur]

We've also passed it several times in the past but not for a few years. The first time was in our first boat, a Vivacity 20, when we had an accidental gybe and my crew got badly clobbered by the main sheet block, blood all over her head - ended up being 'rescued' by the RNLI and she was taken to Sheerness port. Fortunately no serious harm, apart from a scar! I was forgiven and got married a couple of years later.

 

[Murv]

Awesome piece of british heritage! Definitely on my bucket list to see on my own boat.

I wouldn't leave it too long if you get the chance, plans are afoot to remove the masts so nothing will be visible after that!
Not a great shot, but this is the Monty last week

Easiest way to see it is probably to book a trip on X-pilot when she starts running again, you get to see the sea forts than as well
Clicky Link: Standard Redsand Towers Sailing - X-Pilot

 

[tillergirl]

if it went bang at low water you might see a few bits up north i suppose ?

No, no, no. It is estimated that £3m worth of improvements for Kent would be achieved if it blew up. ?

 

[MystyBlue2]

I wouldn't leave it too long if you get the chance, plans are afoot to remove the masts so nothing will be visible after that!
Not a great shot, but this is the Monty last week

Easiest way to see it is probably to book a trip on X-pilot when she starts running again, you get to see the sea forts than as well
Clicky Link: Standard Redsand Towers Sailing - X-Pilot

Ah no way! Going to have to get myself down and see it before they ruin it.

Up north they have ruined all our sight seeing heritage which really annoys me as its part of history and they remove them for stupid reasons. IMHO they should be classed as "listed" so they cant be touched. That wreck and WW2 forts are a beautiful piece of history and looks like i will have to come see them soon!

 

[Stemar]

I wouldn't leave it too long if you get the chance, plans are afoot to remove the masts so nothing will be visible after that!

How long after that before someone ploughs into it, causing instant slum clearance across a good chunk of Kent and Essex?

 

[caiman]

Although not listed as a wreck site,a read of the recent MAIB report on Galwad y Mor might be of interest.
Cheers.

 

[HissyFit]

Incidentally I think you mean chart datum for depths. MHWS is for heights.

Thanks. I should have done some revision before now. Chart datum is set at lowest astronomical tide (LAT). Heights could either be MHWS or highest astronomical tide(HAT).

 

[pcatterall]

When surveying for admiralty charts we always had to wire sweep wrecks where any masts could be a danger to shipping. Your echo sounder may not pick up a mast.

 

[Murv]

How long after that before someone ploughs into it, causing instant slum clearance across a good chunk of Kent and Essex?

To be honest, you'd really have to go some to hit it, there are four special marks on each "corner" of the wreck boundary and another 12 warning bouys marking the exclusion zone.

Ah no way! Going to have to get myself down and see it before they ruin it.

Up north they have ruined all our sight seeing heritage which really annoys me as its part of history and they remove them for stupid reasons. IMHO they should be classed as "listed" so they cant be touched. That wreck and WW2 forts are a beautiful piece of history and looks like i will have to come see them soon!

Safety concerns are the reason given, I think they're worried about the masts collapsing onto the munitions underneath.
The survey reports always make interesting reading, although the summary always states "no significant changes within the structure of the wreck," reading the body of the reports would suggest to the untrained eye that the thing is degrading fairly rapidly!
I do agree it will be a great shame when they're gone, but it could cause a bit of upset if the thing did explode!
In my previous life I had to do regular patrols around the wreck to check the warning bouys, if you wanted to trail your own boat down once lockdown is over to take a look I'd be more than happy to accompany you, as would most of the yokels I would think.

 

[MystyBlue2]

To be honest, you'd really have to go some to hit it, there are four special marks on each "corner" of the wreck boundary and another 12 warning bouys marking the exclusion zone.

Safety concerns are the reason given, I think they're worried about the masts collapsing onto the munitions underneath.
The survey reports always make interesting reading, although the summary always states "no significant changes within the structure of the wreck," reading the body of the reports would suggest to the untrained eye that the thing is degrading fairly rapidly!
I do agree it will be a great shame when they're gone, but it could cause a bit of upset if the thing did explode!
In my previous life I had to do regular patrols around the wreck to check the warning bouys, if you wanted to trail your own boat down once lockdown is over to take a look I'd be more than happy to accompany you, as would most of the yokels I would think.

Ah thats very kind of you! Top man....Once covid blows over i might take you up on your offer.

Thank you very much! ?