Crazy anode saving idea...?

Anode placement on a boat needs to be carefully worked out by surveyors trained in such practices.

They (If professional) should claim that there is no one solution and by adding, ommiting, changing location or size of an anode can not and will not guarantee that they will get it right first time.

It is somthing that needs regular/ annual or biannual monitoring. And each time they come and do tests will try and improve on the time before whilst trying to balance the continuity.

Then the boat owner changes antifoul, changing the copper compostion and then the electrolytical balance.

The boat in the nieghbouring marina berths start connecting to shore power more often.

You decide to connect to shore power less often.

etc, and the whole process starts again.

Usually a boat is manufactured and delivered with the anodes placed correctly by the manufacturer.

By adding a dangly thing in the water more often than not you will improve the performance of your anodes and destroy the anode on the string if connected correctly.

However sometimes electrolytical energy can be increased by changing what was in place by the manufacturer and this increased activity can have a negative effect on the precious items you were originally trying to protect.

On another note, I had a boat owner customer who after changing thier zinc anodes to lumps of steel, saved them selves fortunes as they no longer had to replace the zinc, the steel far outlasted the old zincs and he was surprised other people were not as wise as him. When I mentioned that his rudder pivots were shot and his prop had changed from bronze to pink was pitted and brittle, as a result of this he assured me it was because they had been on his boat for some time. Replaced them and relaunched. I am sure his steel is doing well and his new prop has yet again become an anode.
 
it works because seawater is a different electrolyte. My current anodes are zinc, at the bottom of the galvanic scale. You're going to have to try as bit harder to win the stupid post of the week award but you're heading in the right direction....
 
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Rather than using a less noble anode such as Zn or Mg) to protect the more noble prop one could use sufficiently high external voltage applied to an anode to oppose the natural electrochemical voltage created by the anode, the cathode (your prop) and seawater cell. It should only be a few volt or so as one doesn't want to plate the protected metal!

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That is called an "impressed current" system and is indeed a system that is used in situations where it is appropriate. My experiences of it are in power station condenser waterboxes. The anodes are made of "noble" metal which will not corrode such as platinised titanium.

Technically there is no reason that I can think of why such a system could not be used on your boat provided you had a power supply for it. It would be a massive overkill though.
 
Not so crazy

It's standard practice on aluminium-hulled boats.

By-the-by you've got it the wrong way round, the less-noble metal (what an alchemical term) acts as the anode, and the one higher up the electro-galvanic scale the kathode, and has the deposit.

Quite a few, who leave their boats in known galvanic hotspots will do just that, hang a zinc, attached by a large surface-area conductive wire to the engine block.
 
Yes you are correct, its called the impresses current cathodic system, one ship that I sailed on the Port unit failed (One tiny diode), and of was off line for two days, switching on it takes about 36 hours to settle, the Logs showed a difference from the starbboard, diver down in Dubhia found that acres of paint missing from the stern and the bow (800ft long). I belive that a small systen has been devoloped for small craft but think it would require the QM2 to supply the power! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Yeah, you can buy active systems that do just that. Whether its worth the cost for a small though is debateable. Can't remember the name of the company (ies) that make them but I found them when searching for cathodic protection test meters. They are not uncommon.

Alan.
 
This sounds like

making lists of lists and then notes of where they've been stowed - typical of fans of Dr Alzheimer.

One level of protection is sufficient for small boats, tho' I do note that UK anodes are about x3 the price of those in Europe.

Probably the amount of "noble" metal in them!
 
haven't read the whole thread but it's very common in the states to have a big lump of zinc dangling (not necessarily a proprietary arrangement) over the side to reduce wear on your boats zincs - they say it's useful particularly if you use marinas a lot because other boats systems might not be as good as yours, but yours can suffer as much because of this
 
I hang my old anodes over the side when in dock, it's cos I'm tight!

It always seems a waste to me to throw them away when 2/3 gone, don't really know if it works by helping to reduce the wear on the "new" anodes but we all have our little foibles don't we.

Tom /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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