Crane in day in Scottish yacht club - never seen it before - very interesting

ghostlymoron said:
Very much agree. I've done a lot of site work involving cranework and it should any safety provisions should be, adhered to for good reason. Likewise, I am concerned about using an untrained amateur as a banksman.
There are a lot of dangerous practice's at club craning in days, for example one club I know of insists that the skipper is on board when the boat is lifted "for insurance reasons".
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Our banksman (the one wearing the yellow high viz in my picture linked to above) seems to know what he is doing. I suspect he has had some proper training. and we don't allow people on boats being lifted.
 
dylanwinter said:
At the Corinthians they put four blokes on the yacht to lower it down into the water

you have to choose three friends to help

the alternative is for the old fellahs to climb down a slippery ladder 25 feet to the water

it is my guess, as a fully qualified risk assessment officer for the guild of sailing journalists of yester year, that letting old blokes climb up and down ladders is much more dangerous than gently lowering them in a yacht

but what do I know?

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/sa...-harbours-and-estuaries-of-the-forth-and-tay/
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Search you tube for videos of slings slipping and boats being dropped, cranes falling over etc.

I'll take my chance on a slippery ladder any day.

they MUST after all use the ladder or a dinghy later on to get OFF the boat.
 
ProDave said:
Search you tube for videos of slings slipping and boats being dropped, cranes falling over etc.

I'll take my chance on a slippery ladder any day.

they MUST after all use the ladder or a dinghy later on to get OFF the boat.
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they don't - they motor round to the pontoons and then walk up a gentle slope to get back to the yard

as an unqualified risk assessor, old bloke and frequent user of slippery ladders then I think that the chances of injury are probably greatly reduced by riding in the yachts rather than shinning up and down the ladders.

All very interesting I think.
 
That wouldn't cut it on a construction site. If he really knows what he's doing, he'll have certification to prove it.
Dylan, it shouldn't be a case of doing the least worse option, if its not safe, don't do it. For instance, you could scrub the ladder, wearing a safety line, so that it wasn't slippery.
I know that health and safety is a dirty word (or two maybe) but imagine how you'd feel if one of your old gents fell and was seriously hurt or worse.
ProDave said:
Our banksman (the one wearing the yellow high viz in my picture linked to above) seems to know what he is doing. I suspect he has had some proper training. and we don't allow people on boats being lifted.
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dylanwinter said:
they don't - they motor round to the pontoons and then walk up a gentle slope to get back to the yard
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So why don't they motor round from the pontoons in a flubber and do what they have to do, post launch? Lowering four people with the boat is grossly stupid: it's increasing the chance of a failure by significantly increasing the load and it's increasing the scale of the consequences by having four people involved in something which could have none. Does the club have a Safety Officer, or insurance? I'm very surprised that the crane owner is willing to play along: is the equipment certified for lifting people?
 
JumbleDuck said:
So why don't they motor round from the pontoons in a flubber ....
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They have two work boat/launches that can be used to manoeuvre boats and people to/from the launch area. There is no excuse for this behaviour as many good HSSE practises usually result in efficient operations as well. They probably believe that they have always done it this way!
 
Off topic, but I have found the perfect car for you Dylan:
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BlowingOldBoots said:
It's there to stop the spanner that is accidentally left some where from breaking your skull if it falls off, or the stuff on the crane that can fall off, for example, not the boat.
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Or even more likely when an enthusiastic amateur has the hook on the end of the lifting chains swing into his head because he is too close and not watching.
 
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