ShipsWoofy
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hmm another anchor thread ruined by the over zealous manufacturers.
Every time, *sigh*
Every time, *sigh*
CQRs for sale ??
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hylass
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<span style="color:blue"> hmm another anchor thread ruined by the over zealous manufacturers.
Every time, *sigh* </span>
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Hi Dog watch..
May I ask why you put an "S" at "over zealous manufacturers" as, up to my knowledge, their is only one "N Zelandous manufacturer" writting on this forum ?? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
<span style="color:blue"> hmm another anchor thread ruined by the over zealous manufacturers.
Every time, *sigh* </span>
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Hi Dog watch..
May I ask why you put an "S" at "over zealous manufacturers" as, up to my knowledge, their is only one "N Zelandous manufacturer" writting on this forum ?? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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Was a bit TIC .... !!
have local workshop making up mud-hooks already ... basically I'm after just a couple of "hooks" to provide stern lines to keep boat off pontoon (stern to pontoon, bow to couple of lines out at V to buoyed hooks).
A couple of CQR / cheap ploughs of 25lb etc. each would do nicely !! It's a sheltered spot. (The yard I'm leaving may have a couple of old "hooks" laying around as well !!)
But yes ... excellent idea ...
have local workshop making up mud-hooks already ... basically I'm after just a couple of "hooks" to provide stern lines to keep boat off pontoon (stern to pontoon, bow to couple of lines out at V to buoyed hooks).
A couple of CQR / cheap ploughs of 25lb etc. each would do nicely !! It's a sheltered spot. (The yard I'm leaving may have a couple of old "hooks" laying around as well !!)
But yes ... excellent idea ...
ShipsWoofy
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Re: Was a bit TIC .... !!
The mooring anchors we used to use looked like big heavy fishermans with only one fluke, the roll bar was a welded 1" bar and the fluke had a large flat plate welded to it. They wieghed around 5 stone + at a guess.
Stood up they would be around 4 -5' tall.
We would dig them in at low water, there was no requirement for them to 'set', which allowed them to excell at stopping without compromising that ability to allow them to 'dig in'.
For this reason, I do not believe standard anchors are a good idea for a permanent mooring, they will eventually pull together or sink taking the chain, none of the effects you are hoping for in a well found mooring.
Get a welder to build you some, they do not have to be neat, nor stow.
I personally think you will be saying goodbye to your boat if you fart around with 24lb anchors.
The mooring anchors we used to use looked like big heavy fishermans with only one fluke, the roll bar was a welded 1" bar and the fluke had a large flat plate welded to it. They wieghed around 5 stone + at a guess.
Stood up they would be around 4 -5' tall.
We would dig them in at low water, there was no requirement for them to 'set', which allowed them to excell at stopping without compromising that ability to allow them to 'dig in'.
For this reason, I do not believe standard anchors are a good idea for a permanent mooring, they will eventually pull together or sink taking the chain, none of the effects you are hoping for in a well found mooring.
Get a welder to build you some, they do not have to be neat, nor stow.
I personally think you will be saying goodbye to your boat if you fart around with 24lb anchors.
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Re: Was a bit TIC .... !! Everyones point taken ...
My Mooring is in the canal at back of house .... sheltered river location about 2 miles inland as crow flies ...
The idea is to Medi moor the boat - as I do with present Weekender - stern to the pontoon from shore ... the two anchors providing two lines in a V of the bow via buoys.
The weekender which is high windage job has survived all gales / storms through here with the line to pontoon and a 5kg grapnel for bowline via buoy ....
If I was doing it in an estuary / harbour - I agree with you and the mud-hook as you describe is an excellent tool for the job.
Initial thoughts were to get hold of an ex Soviet House Concrete wall slab ... which have metal lift rings etc. moulded in ... but ground is too soft for truck / tractor to carry to the canal .... so anchors are next best item ...
It's early days yet anyway - as they won't go in till spring ... and I have spoken to a steel workshop out here ... all I have to do is give them a sketch and they'll knock up anything within reason !!
My Mooring is in the canal at back of house .... sheltered river location about 2 miles inland as crow flies ...
The idea is to Medi moor the boat - as I do with present Weekender - stern to the pontoon from shore ... the two anchors providing two lines in a V of the bow via buoys.
The weekender which is high windage job has survived all gales / storms through here with the line to pontoon and a 5kg grapnel for bowline via buoy ....
If I was doing it in an estuary / harbour - I agree with you and the mud-hook as you describe is an excellent tool for the job.
Initial thoughts were to get hold of an ex Soviet House Concrete wall slab ... which have metal lift rings etc. moulded in ... but ground is too soft for truck / tractor to carry to the canal .... so anchors are next best item ...
It's early days yet anyway - as they won't go in till spring ... and I have spoken to a steel workshop out here ... all I have to do is give them a sketch and they'll knock up anything within reason !!
hylass
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Re: Was a bit TIC .... !! Everyones point taken ...
Although not a "new generation" model, the best anchor for a permanent mooring will be this:
Although not a "new generation" model, the best anchor for a permanent mooring will be this:
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Re: Was a bit TIC .... !! Everyones point taken ...
There is one flaw with that ..... a) I am not tidal - so only useable in my case (I'm not a diver !!) in shallow waters, b) I have a sandy bottom that is quite thin before it hits hard sub-strata - so coudn't bury that vertical shank ......
My canal is var. from 1.2m to 2.5m deep .... so really a Mud-hook / CQR style is best as the shank should lay reasonably flat and not a) get lines caught on it, b) dig in without my diving down to force it in.
Yes a "Doggy-screw" is a good one - but it all depends on location ....
Now what that would be good for - is shore side points in bank to make fast to ..... but then - I can go to local farmers shop out here and buy screw-stakes for horses / cows etc. that would do the job ... WITH chain fitted !
Forot to also mention that moorings are lifted for winter here ... canal freezes completely to bottom ... if a buoy / chain / line is left in - it can be broken by the movement of ice etc. - then it's diver job to find the anchor ... IF you are lucky ...
There is one flaw with that ..... a) I am not tidal - so only useable in my case (I'm not a diver !!) in shallow waters, b) I have a sandy bottom that is quite thin before it hits hard sub-strata - so coudn't bury that vertical shank ......
My canal is var. from 1.2m to 2.5m deep .... so really a Mud-hook / CQR style is best as the shank should lay reasonably flat and not a) get lines caught on it, b) dig in without my diving down to force it in.
Yes a "Doggy-screw" is a good one - but it all depends on location ....
Now what that would be good for - is shore side points in bank to make fast to ..... but then - I can go to local farmers shop out here and buy screw-stakes for horses / cows etc. that would do the job ... WITH chain fitted !
Forot to also mention that moorings are lifted for winter here ... canal freezes completely to bottom ... if a buoy / chain / line is left in - it can be broken by the movement of ice etc. - then it's diver job to find the anchor ... IF you are lucky ...