CQR-----Delta--------Manson and price is an issue.

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So sorry for starting anchor thread but have trawelled through the search results but still find myself here. I am thinking of replacing the 35lb CQR on my 36` westerly Conway. Having spent a week at anchor last year and it was very rarely dug in but we where anchored to a long loop of chain.

So trying to talk swmbo in to heading to s Brittany for a couple of weeks this summer and want a better anchor for the islands and moribhan, but cannot afford a spade but was wondering if the Manson was worth the extra 200 pounds over the delta. So was wondering if people could rate the delta on a scale between the CQR and Manson. Say with the CQR on zero and the manson on10 where would the delta go?

Looking around the 16kg/35lb range and seen the delta for £150ish and the Manson for £350ish.
 
stav said:
So sorry for starting anchor thread but have trawelled through the search results but still find myself here. I am thinking of replacing the 35lb CQR on my 36` westerly Conway. Having spent a week at anchor last year and it was very rarely dug in but we where anchored to a long loop of chain.

So trying to talk swmbo in to heading to s Brittany for a couple of weeks this summer and want a better anchor for the islands and moribhan, but cannot afford a spade but was wondering if the Manson was worth the extra 200 pounds over the delta. So was wondering if people could rate the delta on a scale between the CQR and Manson. Say with the CQR on zero and the manson on10 where would the delta go?

Looking around the 16kg/35lb range and seen the delta for £150ish and the Manson for £350ish.
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Danforth for price...
http://www.chandleryworld.co.uk/catalogue/fluke-danforth-cruising-anchor-20kg_p3758-2278.html?gclid=CP2XnI2flrcCFZMbtAodZWIAtw

A bit above you budget but:
http://www.marinechandlery.com/knox-anchor-18923


Just ideas from outside the box, then plough anchors I am not keen on...
 
jordanbasset said:
I would go for the Kobra 2 if you are not going for the spade, - price is very good as well
http://www.force4.co.uk/7314/Plastimo-Kobra-2-Anchor-12kg---boats-up-to-13m.html
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I've been in the same position/decision point quite recently and, after a great deal of digging and questioning, I too decided to plump for a Kobra 2. It is favourably priced in comparison with 'others', it is well-reported in various tests, and I could afford to go up one size from 'recommended' while still being able to heft it around the foredeck.

Yes, had I spent several hundred pounds more, I could have bought even better 'performance' - but I am content that I have the best 'bang per buck' presently available and I certainly don't feel I have shaved the margins. You should be able to secure yours rather more cheaply than we here in overtaxed Britain....
 
I'm not qualified by any expertise to answer your question, but I did notice the other day that the Bembridge all-weather lifeboat carried two appropriately-sized Lewmar Delta anchors.

For what its worth, I'm also intending to cruise North Brittany this summer, and have just upgraded the original 25lb CQR with a 25lb Manson Supreme, which cost £230.

The 22lb Lewmar Delta would have cost £115, while the 22lb Kobra would have cost £90 - I'd have gone for the next size up in either alternative, but in each case these the larger sizes seemed to overwhelm the small foredeck/bow-roller.

My boat, my decision.

PS Force 4 Chandlers are doing the 35lb Manson for £300 - £50 less than you quoted in your post.
 
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CQR 0 ,Manson 10
Delta about 6-7.

The Delta sets very well, but does drag (slowly) in softer substrates. If you can go large it is a great value for money anchor.
I would rate the Kobra 2 as similar in performance to the Delta. (but the Kobra 2 is often cheaper than a Delta). In construction the Kobra is a slightly fragile anchor (the Kobra 1 is worse, but only available in small sizes) so I would tend to go (just) for the Delta as a primary anchor at this level, but a lot depends on local pricing.

IMHO Rocna, MS and Spade are significantly better, but are considerably more expensive, which may, or may not, be justified depending on your requirements.
 
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Faced with exactly the same decision on a similar size boat. Went for the Delta and it does what it says it will do.
 
stav said:
So sorry for starting anchor thread but have trawelled through the search results but still find myself here. I am thinking of replacing the 35lb CQR on my 36` westerly Conway. Having spent a week at anchor last year and it was very rarely dug in but we where anchored to a long loop of chain.

So trying to talk swmbo in to heading to s Brittany for a couple of weeks this summer and want a better anchor for the islands and moribhan, but cannot afford a spade but was wondering if the Manson was worth the extra 200 pounds over the delta. So was wondering if people could rate the delta on a scale between the CQR and Manson. Say with the CQR on zero and the manson on10 where would the delta go?

Looking around the 16kg/35lb range and seen the delta for £150ish and the Manson for £350ish.
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Given that your new anchor will last you as long as you keep the boat, £200 is a small price to pay for some reasonable certainty of not dragging, so being able to avoid marinas, and sleep at night.

Say you keep the boat fr 5 more years, and anchor say, 28 nights a year, the cost per night is pretty much nothing, and you might actually save the whole extra cost by saving some marina costs.

I know you could apply this to any expenditure, but a good anchor is pretty critical if you are going to do any serious anchoring.

I'd also be considering a Rocna, (I'm not joking!),
 
Someone quite senior in his chain-chandlery confessed to the view that Lewmar had "done very well indeed from the pricing of the CQR and in particular the Delta..."

The idea that 'you get what you pay for' is quaint. Certainly, you don't get more than you pay for....

As for use of the description 'fragile', one would seek a reliable justification of that notion. I haven't seen one so, until/unless one emerges, it is simply prejudice at work.
 
Richard10002 said:
Given that your new anchor will last you as long as you keep the boat, £200 is a small price to pay for some reasonable certainty of not dragging, so being able to avoid marinas, and sleep at night.

Say you keep the boat fr 5 more years, and anchor say, 28 nights a year, the cost per night is pretty much nothing, and you might actually save the whole extra cost by saving some marina costs.

I know you could apply this to any expenditure, but a good anchor is pretty critical if you are going to do any serious anchoring.
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Totally agree - apart from the Rocna bit which I can't comment on.

I have had a thread running for a couple of weeks - Alloy or Steel Spade.

This is because I have recently discussed Spade with two people who have both spent considerable time at anchor and claim that theirs has set first time - without fail, every time and they have never dragged.

I, too have done some serious anchoring - CQR, Delta, Fortress and Fortress tandemed with Delta. Successful for about 80% of the time I would guess but have never had absolute confidence of first time setting and never had a truly contented night in anything other than benign and ideal conditions.

I have therefore decided to spend the extra two or three hundred on a Spade. Amortising it over the next 10 years (my likely active sailing life - and if I sell the boat the bloody anchor stays with me!) plus the confidence factor I feel I can justify this.

Still have not decided between Alloy or Steel though!

Good luck to the OP with his decision.
 
Why not a Rocna?

Before all the fuss and uproar over the Rocna affair I had used a Rocna 10kg on my Twister, a fairly heavy weight little boat at 4.5 tons for such a small anchor, but it performed excellently at all times.

When changing to a slightly bigger boat weighing in at around 9.5 tons I upgraded on the size of my anchor to 15kg and stuck with Rocna just days before all the 'whatsit' regarding Rocna, starting flying.

I have no connections with any anchor manufacturer....... I have found the Rocna an excellent choice....... over 5 months away on a cruise from Portsmouth to Scotland and back, anchoring more than half the time away it performed superbly.

If I were to re-anchor another boat I wouldn't hesitate on choosing the same again
 
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Scotty_Tradewind said:
Why not a Rocna?

Before all the fuss and uproar over the Rocna affair I had used a Rocna 10kg on my Twister, a fairly heavy weight little boat at 4.5 tons for such a small anchor, but it performed excellently at all times.

When changing to a slightly bigger boat weighing in at around 9.5 tons I upgraded on the size of my anchor to 15kg and stuck with Rocna just days before all the 'whatsit' regarding Rocna, starting flying.

I have no connections with any anchor manufacturer....... I have found the Rocna an excellent choice....... over 5 months away on a cruise from Portsmouth to Scotland and back, anchoring more than half the time away it performed superbly.

If I were to re-anchor another boat I wouldn't hesitate on choosing the same again
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Is it safe to say that the Rocna problem is now behind us?
 
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