Costs of owning a boat

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Prices in GB Pounds for one season:

Shore access pontoon berth (1/2 tide but with free elec & water) & club fees: 225
Insurance ('fully comp' with Pantenius): 207 (30 for just 3rd party)
Winter (in barn 1mile away): 125
Lift in & out (club organises road crane to harbour): 28
Antifoul (VC teflon as was on there & nothing else sticks to it & only small boat): 50

Total: 635 (458 if 3rd party)

That's the min, I also buy stuff I dont really need, but then I just have to go without something else.

The boat cost a deal less than most peoples second car in the first place.

holidays are for me on the boat,
I run the cheapest car that gets me to the boat,
It's a small boat.

Personally I think more along the lines of 'If you want it you will find some way of affording it' rather than 'If you have to ask you can't afford it'.

But in our club there is a good mix of rich & poor, sail & motor, big & small boats, and it dont make any difference as long as the people are half decent /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Cost as per all who submitted=££££££
Look on their faces when sailing>...............Priceless!!!!! (as per Mastercard!!!)
 
Yes you should be able to get a 28ft for less than 17k and still have a chioce. Its nice to see someone who has, how do I put it, a little more realistic budget.... I see posts asking for recommendations for a yacht 35-40k.... if only /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif. I would imagine you would be able to find a swinging mooring with a club for £1000 ish... may take time looking, but with the help of people on here I'm sure someone can put you in touch with somewhere. By the way, don't forget to post for any advice/recommendations on potential yachts... there is a wealth of knowledge and experience on here that could definitely help you. Good luck.
 
Plenty of good yachts of around the 27 - 28ft mark in the £12K - £20K price range.
Swinging Moorings in Chichester and Langstone Hbr are a lot less than £1000 a year ..... contact Harbour Masters

Most boats will come with most you need and so are for first year anyway - reasonably equipped to just go out and sail.

Thing to do is to >

a) Draw up a list of what you want to do and where you would like to be going within a few years.
b) Decide on type of keel and style to suit you best
c) is it family type, you and a few mates racing, casual cruising etc.

Then get wandering around brokers yards and general boat-yards ..... this is important - you should look at as many boats as possible and in as many styles / types / form as possible ... so that you build up a wealth of personal observation.

Now this is where it hurts ! You will walk into a yard one day and a boat will be sitting there, possibly stuck away behind something else ... it will have "BUY ME ..... YOU WANT ME" written all over it .... your heart will pound, your wallet will quiver and try to disappear, but you just know .... that boat is YOURS.

Honest ..... have a good look around - spend real time at it ....

And don't forget - asking price is just that ... subject to Survey - where faults are found and negotiated of price, but after price is haggled seriously. Many prices are a good 20 - 30% over real values ... honest !! Occasionally you find a boat at real price ... Be bold brave and bloody minded. Boats are slow sellers ... Often seller has next boat lined up so needs to sell.

Go for it and enjoy the life !!
 
I've no intention of addling it all up, but some of the cost comparisons are interesting. For what its worth we have ...

Mooring £45/year (provide own tackle)
Mooring tackle plus inspections and maintenance will be around £100/year
Boat yard winter storage, around £450 inc lift in/out
Insurance £240

Marina pontoon berth would be between £550/year (Peterhead) and £750 at Whitehills.
 
You will probably find that his boat club membership opens up his opportunities for what seems to be extremely economical sailing. Winter Storage and lifts in and out are minimal. I think this post is a scam really - just to make people like me feel bad because it costs me so much more!
 
" marinas or boat clubs round here both of which seem very expensive for what they are."

You suprise me - Marinas are expensive, but boat clubs, of which there is a wide selection in S. Wales are good and reasonable, IMHO. You can't really expect someone else to subsidise your boating and even putting down your own mooring is quite expensive in chain, sinkers etc. At least you can take your bilge-keeler home for the Winter.
Ken
 
Thanks for the input guys.

We are slowly developing a feel for what we are after and i will make a 'which boat?' post but i'm saving it for the time being.
At the moment i'm really worried about the possibility of getting a boat only to find out i can't afford to maintain it or can't get insured on it or something like that.

The boat club idea is a good one. I guess I just need to find one without a waiting list for berthing.
 
Quote "I think this post is a scam really"

No it isn't, honest. The prices are not fictitious.
What other pastime or hobby can class dragging 13 mtres of 1/2" chain across the mud as Fun?
Shaqra has said it all "The look on their faces while sailing - Priceless!!!"

Alan
 
Long keeled early 1970s boat of fairly obscure design - about £7-12K

Annual marina berth (up North) £1500
Lift in £130
Lift out £130
Insurance £200

DIY maintenance

Antifoul £60 (cheap stuff)
Varnish / bits & pieces £50
Engine service & anodes £50
Water filter£20

Rolling rigging replacement programme so nothing is over 10 years old: (say) £40 / year.

Rolling sail replacement programme costs (not that I've ever replaced a sail) but one day... BIG bill! (say) £300 / year based on a new set of sails lasting about 10 years and costing £3k.

Engine replacement (again assuming engine lasts 20 years with sensible servicing and maintenance) £150

Mast & boom replacement (every 30 years maybe?) £???

Somehow, it always seems to cost more than that but I guess these are the big expenditures - disregarding potential one-offs like osmosis.
 
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