Cost of re-engining?

The main problem with my outboard is that I can turn it and spin my boat around on a sixpense. It stops me having hours of fun doing 9-point turns in the marina.
 
what you fail to mention

AngusMcDoon said:
I should tell you my sorry tale of woe with my outboard main engine. It's a Yamaha 9.9, 12 years old now. It propels me at 5.5 knots consuming a gallon of fuel every 22 miles. Even though I replace the oil and filter every year and the impellor and plugs every few years, many years back I had to replace the fuel pump membrane for £18 as well. I was gutted. This is the sort of palava and expense you can expect with your Tohatsu over the next decade or two.
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you utterly have failed to mention the pleasure of all those phone calls to engineers answering machines and getting to know their wives on first name terms

You failed to mention their meoldic tooth sucking as they judge how much the job will cost by looking at the quality of your car

what about your dieselly bilges...

I myself love the smell of diesel in the afternoon, mornings, evenings and night times

the outboard noise is, I confess, a drawback

but now that I have almost lost all hearing at outbroad frequencies life is much better thanks

I said....better thanks

Dylan
 
that is true

prv said:
Surely you were OK on that front, though? :)

Pete
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you are dead right

although the new Tohatsu cost me more than the car

which has been with me for the whole journey so far

so I suppose that 9 or 11K is a reasonable price to pay if you drive a half decent car



just for old times sake

here are a few of the many films about the beast




it did make a lovely noise

if such a thing can be said of a single pot diesel


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MbCJ_tKaDng


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtOnN0VPiZk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MCRjUI4fjA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APs0DNSKqxg

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/video-logs/ktl-vlog-111-plan-c-and-plan-d/

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/video-logs/vlog-109-the-beast-bites-back/

of course had it not been for the beast I would never have met Stewy and Alan

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/video-logs/vlog-113-fixing-the-beast-alan-and-stewy-arrive/

I think the OP should watch some of them before deciding on an inboard
 
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I can do better than 11k; my other boat, a 1950's estuary cruiser had a 62hp 5 cyl Nanni installed in 2003. When in 2008 the front piston came adrift and gauged three large scores in the bore making it an uneconomic repair, Peachments only interest was to sell me another 62hp Nanni. Total cost, plus most of a season lost, about 18k. Hence my reluctance to ever have a Nanni again.
 
ianc1200 said:
I can do better than 11k; my other boat, a 1950's estuary cruiser had a 62hp 5 cyl Nanni installed in 2003. When in 2008 the front piston came adrift and gauged three large scores in the bore making it an uneconomic repair, Peachments only interest was to sell me another 62hp Nanni. Total cost, plus most of a season lost, about 18k. Hence my reluctance to ever have a Nanni again.
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Surprised it cost £9k to fit a new piston and liner, who quoted you that ?

Boo2
 
Not really of assistance but I can't help being amazed at how things must have changed. In 1996, I re-enginned my then Mobo with brand new Iveco 100hp inboard diesels, brand new instruments up on the flybridge and down below and re-wired the whole boat, domestics included. Did the whole job myself............and had change out of £12k. The current owner says the donks are still going well. :):)


The icing on the cake was when someone came along and gave me £1000 for the knackered old motors!
 
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Applescruffs said:
Why are you thinking of a replacement? is the original engine shot..or are you just looking for something with a bit more ooomph?

If the engine is shot then it will probably cheaper to replace like-for-like if possible , albeit 2nd hand if available, engine mounts, transmission, fuel lines etc can remain....
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Hi,

I'm McFrame, I've got a 1990 Yanmar 1GM10 - since I fitted an hour meter in 2007, I've done about 350 hours.

I've /also/ got a 1995 Italian motorbike, bought from new.

The original engine on that went pop after 65,000 miles in 2009 (mechanic labour rates made repair uneconomic) so I paid someone to fit a (used) replacement.

That lasted 2 years and ~ 10,000 miles before it went pop.

I spent £300 on another used engine from ebay and fitted it myself in a (long) weekend.

It's been good for another year (~4,000 miles) - I know the bike is worth SodAll, but I also now know it inside & out - and I've got a spare engine to dismantle for a winter project...

If I have any trouble with the boat Yanmar, (OK, exhaust elbow & water pump replaced in 2009) I don't think I'll be buying a new Beta for SillyMoney.

As the YoofOfToday would have it: "Just saying, like" :-)
 
mcframe said:
I spent £300 on another used engine from ebay and fitted it myself in a (long) weekend.
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If I have any trouble with the boat Yanmar, (OK, exhaust elbow & water pump replaced in 2009) I don't think I'll be buying a new Beta for SillyMoney.

As the YoofOfToday would have it: "Just saying, like" :-)
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Sure, but however good the OP gets at DIY repair, I don't think he'll be up to grafting another cylinder onto the 1GM10 :)

Pete
 
AngusMcDoon said:
Mine was a complete sod to start once. Kept on pressing the red button and it just refused to go. After an extensive engineering investigation by a trained qualified engineer, it was discovered that the battery main circuit breaker was in the off position.
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£500 well spent, eh ? :D

Boo2
 
jellidreamer said:
Good article in November yachting monthy. £6400 paided for Beta30, boat show special i think. Chap replaced everythink , total cost£10394. Cost included engine fitting. Well worth a read.
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That chap was me :) Glad you found the article worth while

Living in magazine world we have to put the RRP prices, rather than the Internet/Boatshow deals. So the 10k figure should be the worst case scenario.

The engine, for example, was at a Boatshow price of £5245 IIRC not the RRP in the region of £6400.

Likewise if my stern gland was in good condition I could have saved a few hundred pounds there. But I didn't replace the engine to save money, I replaced it for peace of mind and better performance. Spending over a thousand pounds on a prop makes no financial sense at all, but sailing performance is improved and the engine has the power to make the most of 3 blades it in tight manoeuvres.

The is a full breakdown of RRP costs on YM plus
 
bendyone said:
I replace a GM1 with a nanni 14.... I had some mounting plates made which raised the hight and moved the feet centres to the correct position.
The fitting time was about 4 hours to remove the old and bolt in the new.
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4 hours? That's amazing! On another thread someone recommended allowing about 15 weekends to swop engines.
 
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