Cost of a new dinghy!

[alant]

My local boat builder, builds a few scows from time to time. These are just under 12' & sell for a £5000, which seems a horrendous cost for a such small boat. A similar scow built nearby, sells for £7000+ !
However, when talking to the first guy, he said that the materials alone cost £3000+.
Its a wonder any boatbuilder sells any, with those costs.

 

[wrr]

Annual Value Index

But what about the value? I suggest the following formula: [(cost x 0.2) + annual expenses (mooring, chandlery, fuel, insurance etc.)] / [ days used per annum x satisfaction glow index ( from 0.5 to 2.0)] Based on this, apart from long-term cruising, the smaller and prettier the boat, the better the value in pounds spent for pleasure gained. As Peter Gregson tells me, a boat is cheaper to own than polo ponies. However, depending on where you shop, you can always eat the latter.

 

[stevebrassett]

A new wooden Merlin Rocket hull can cost nearly £7000, with no fittings. Mind you, that is built by Alan Jackson, who is simply a wood-working genius.

 

[smth448]

Its the labour cost that pushes the price up. A craftsman built wooden boat will costa fortune when compared to a modern stamped out of a mould plastic fantastic. It will have that indefinable star quality though. Even a Mirror Dinghy now costs thousands in kit form. When I was kid (back with Noah) a Mirror kit was £70!
The major boat builders prefer to make a and sell big boats because the labour charge is not much higher than a small one and the profit margin is higher.

 

[michael_w]

How long does it take a craftsman to build the boat? Probably several weeks, add the cost of materials, profit etc. It's proably dirt cheap.

 

[Zagato]

You think that's bad, compare it to a Caterham car where the parts are 10K or less yet they charge 25K and you have to build it yourself in about 100-150 hours!! They have staff and overheads to cover but it is still a lot for what you get, the boat doesn't look to bad in comparison, especially when they build it for you and as long as it holds it's value well if you ever sell then it's not a problem.

 

[Capt Popeye]

Ahh cost of a new build dinghy!

Agreed that they appear costly, probably because we can 'pick up' a GRP one for very little money, almost anywhere boating is going on!

But, if you are looking for a traditional built (clincher) Stem Dinghy, Larch on Oak with Mahogany Transom, new built and varnished, 10ft 5" loa?? I can point you in the right direction to an advertisement for one. Asking 2k

Pick up South West Coast area.

 

[Lakesailor]

Secondhand Windermere Char fishing boat. £7,500 http://www.classicboat.co.uk/buying-and-chartering/borwicks/

There is a guy in Kendal (called Bowness bizarrely) who builds them new at about £12,000

This is the secondhand one

old one

 

[alant]

Ahh cost of a new build dinghy!

Agreed that they appear costly, probably because we can 'pick up' a GRP one for very little money, almost anywhere boating is going on!

But, if you are looking for a traditional built (clincher) Stem Dinghy, Larch on Oak with Mahogany Transom, new built and varnished, 10ft 5" loa?? I can point you in the right direction to an advertisement for one. Asking 2k

Pick up South West Coast area.

The scows in question, are GRP, not 'craftsman built' wood!

Yes, there are man hours + perceived 'value', but still amazed at the 'trade' cost of the GRP stuff.

 

[ChrisE]

Trust me, they are still in high demand. Any Scow old or new put up for sale on the YC notice board just goes.

FWIW, I thought that £7k was high but those in the club that follow these things think that it is a reasonable price to pay ...

 

[Capt Popeye]

The scows in question, are GRP, not 'craftsman built' wood!

Yes, there are man hours + perceived 'value', but still amazed at the 'trade' cost of the GRP stuff.

Cripes - not that price for GRP thingy dinghy!!

Wooden ones at a high price I can understand (price of wood, seasoning time, waste off cuts, copper nails/ roves, skilled boat builder etc) and they are real craftsmen built.

But then again look at the Drascome Lugger prices, much in demand, hold their second hand value well, and GRP .

 

[lw395]

For the Lymington Scows and similar at other Solent clubs like Seaview, the build price is really the entry price to racing them, which is a serious business.
Given that they hold their value well, the depreciation cost per year is not so bad, and a lot of people get a lot of fun from the racing.
Not my sort of boat, but don't knock it.

 

[alant]

Trust me, they are still in high demand. Any Scow old or new put up for sale on the YC notice board just goes.

FWIW, I thought that £7k was high but those in the club that follow these things think that it is a reasonable price to pay ...

What would you value an old GRP Beaulieu Scow (tan sail, wood mast, bouyancy bags + s/s trolley) at, just as a matter of interest?