Correct radio procedures

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Twister_Ken

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Being proud of my acquired ability to repeat call signs three times running, and say over or out (but never both) at the appropriate points in an ongoing TX/RX situation, VHF-wise, I was interested to her the professionals using VHF at the weekend.

CH 12 is Southampton VTS A typical conversation might be...

"VTS, Red Jet Three, Hook, outbound"
"3 received"

End of conversation.

There were also several Rogers and Wilcos, which us yottie types are taught not to use, plus the odd double click of the PSS to confirm a message received.

How very lax.

Mike Hotel Delta Tango Two Out.




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Re: Unfriendly post Ken

Well he's a great one for the NM's at the end of his post-subject topics - so he's being quite friendly really.
The RYA had their own language, one phrase of which was
'Coach One to keelboat Coach'
which would elicit the response
'Coach One go'
I often wondered whether I should rat on them and get the boy Carr in trouble with the authorities, but he's much bigger than me and I come from a long line of cowards.

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I seem to recall I lost a few marks in my Long Range Certificate course (which also covered VHF) when asked to make a simulated call in the Solent 'in good radio conditions'

I said all callsigns three times when the correct procedure was to say 'Fred, Fred this is Peter over' - but may not have remembered totally correctly.

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Nout wrong with a bit of Rogering, used to do it lots many years back, when I was a radio op.

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vyv
I agree with you. it can be very tedious to keep repeating all the official jargon. Just think of what it would be like for either the CG or PC operators.

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That is a far better way to do it than all this "over" or (cos' I can't say and between the two words can I!!) "Out" rubbish, more aviation like and no messing about trying to get the "procedure" correct.
I hardly ever say "over" unless I really need to because I am so used to talking in "Aviation" speak where chatter is kept to a minimum.
e.g
"Speedbird 255, 4 miles 26L"
"Speedbird 255 continue approach 26L, number 2"
"Roger, Speedbird 255"

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Deja vu.

After the last thread on this topic I have paid particular attention to all the various professional users around here. Hardly any of the "overing" at all except when quite apparant that confusion might occur without it (virtually never).

Calls are generally short (1 x 1) and often have the message immediately attached (ie no wait for confirmation of being heard by a station known to be maintaining a watch). Particularly fluid are the pilots working with the tugs. Something we should all aim for in my view and forget the amateurish stuff we seem to get taught.

John

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Heard last night, conversation between QHM and outbound ship from Portsmouth. This followed an earlier warning that a controlled explosion of ordnance would take place 3.5 cables east of SW Mining buoy in the E Solent.

QHM: The ordnance is no more
SHIP: It is no more?
QHM: It is no more

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I still remember the scene from Airplane, when the pilot and co-pilot were called Clarence Over and Roger Murdoch.


Tower: Flight 2-0-9er, you're cleared for take off.
Clarence Over: Roger!
Roger Murdoch: Huh?
Tower: L.A. departure frequency 1-2-3 point 9er.
Clarence Over: Roger!
Roger Murdoch: Huh?: Re-quest Vector, over!
Clarence Over: What?
Tower: 2-0-9er clear for vector 2-3-4.
Roger Murdoch: We have clearance Clarence.
Clarence Over: Roger, Roger. What's our Vector Victor?
Tower: Tower's radio clearance, over!
Clarence Over: That's Clarence Over! Over.
Tower: Roger.
Roger Murdoch: Huh?
Tower: Roger, over.
Roger Murdoch: Huh?
Clarence Over: Huh?

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Re: Pervosity

<Who was Victor?>

I think he was the navigator, but it's a while since I saw the film.

Incidentally and completely irrelevantly, it was one of my most treasured movie-going experiences, as SWMBO and I were holidaying in Barbados with friends at the time and went to see it at Barbados' one and only drive-in cinema. Sitting in an old Mini-Moke eating a greasy hamburger and chips, surrounded by the chirping of crickets and the fumes of, ahem, "herbal" cigarettes was pure heaven. Particularly in February, with all your mates freezing their b*ll*cks off at home!

Happy days...........

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Re: Pervosity

After watching that film, I convinced my wife that, that was the way to re-invigorate all helms, auto or otherwise<s>

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