Correct installation of motoring cone

[Wunja]

Having nearly killed myself trying to hoist the Bl**dy thing up the halyards, I came to the conclusion that I was using it in the wrong way.

The way it was spinning, it would have given more power than the sails were.

 

[sailorman]

Where can i buy one /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[nimbusgb]

snake oil beware!

Given the coefficient of thermal expansion of the third bearing and the modulus of elasticity of the designed couplings it is unlikely that you could extract any power from the system at all.

Of course if you were to use delrin and kevlar you might stand a better chance.

 

[webcraft]

Should be hoisted in the foretriangle, not on a flag halliard. Tsk tsk.

- W

 

[srp]

Can you attach it to the anchor chain to help pull it in? If so, which anchor would you recommend?

 

[Wunja]

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Should be hoisted in the foretriangle, not on a flag halliard. Tsk tsk.

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The only thing I could use to hoist it there, would mean lowering the sail....







... Making its use unnecessary!

 

[sarabande]

there's a problem of Colregs here.

If you use the cone to drive the winch that's connected to the anchor, as soon as the anchor is clear of the sea bed, you are "under way", and the cone must be dropped - which will let the anchor run out, so you are then anchored again, which means the cone....

EDIT - err, cone, ball, all the same to me after looking at sheep bums all day. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[Loginname]

Not quite!

The anchor ball should be up. Then the chain comes in and when you are underway the ball is dropped and the cone then needs to be deployed.

What I want to know is how you use this when flying a courtesy flag! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Malcb]

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Should be hoisted in the foretriangle, not on a flag halliard. Tsk tsk.

- W

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BUT if you have your jib/genny out then it will only be visible from one side only, so it will be exactly the same as if from the spreaders.

 

[sailorman]

It could be improved with a " Snurble Grip Thribley Mk 111" L/H of course /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[Boat44]

Don't know what was happening this weekend, but I actually saw several motroing cones. No not in the chandlery, actaully on sailing boats with mainsail up who were motoring. Amazing! Never seen the like before.

Almost made me feel guilty for not having mine up.

 

[sailorman]

Bet they were wearing matching Tilly Hats

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Now if you made the cone aerodynamically efficient, so that motion generated a turning moment, then as you moved forward it would power the propeller, which would generate more turning moment, which would generate faster speeds, which would.....

et voila...... you've just created perpetual motion..... congratulations.... I am sure you will enjoy your riches.......

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[PhilipH]

Is that a new regulation - cone up and matching Tilley hats on? Better get some.

Just spent 2 weeks up the wets (sorry, west) coast of Scotland and only us with the cone up when motor sailing. What is the world coming to? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[pyrojames]

Ah, I see the problem with mine now. Despite spending all those thousands on kevlar rods and teflon coated bearings, I can only remember fitting it in the quarter berth..

 

[Hugo260]

Hi Sailors, i would fix the Motoring cone in front of the jib. So, we still respect thesafety code F.i. the foretriangle. And everybody sees it from thé bow/front even with full jib out

 

[mattonthesea]

Ah!
I've always wondered why the divider between the courtesy flags and the lee cloths is such a strange shape.

 

[Aeolus]

Hopefully in the 16 years since the original post, the OP managed to sort it out.

 

[justanothersailboat]

The OP's image is long gone!

I can't help but wonder who thought hoisting the cone in the foretriangle would be a sensible move in a small sloop. Up the backstay might be more practical.