Cornish Ensign?

For goodness sake why are we so obsessed with what is legal the whole time in this country. Look at the French they fly a whole assortment of flags from their boats. What is more they enjoy their sailing.

Come on lets show the country that sailing is not the preserve of a bunch of boring old farts. Lets have some fun on the water.
 
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For goodness sake why are we so obsessed with what is legal the whole time in this country. Look at the French they fly a whole assortment of flags from their boats. What is more they enjoy their sailing.

Come on lets show the country that sailing is not the preserve of a bunch of boring old farts. Lets have some fun on the water.

[/ QUOTE ]The French are VERY particular about what they fly on their boat.

As far as I am concerned its not a question of what is legal, just what is RIGHT!
 
Well the total ignorance of forumites to Cornwall's unique cultural and constitutional status is disapointing but not all together suprising. However to compare Cornwall's status as being on a par with Dorset or Lincolnshire is rather hurtful. The Devonian flag, and therefore ensign was designed with the sole purpose of winding up the Cornish and I assure you that it succeeds superbly!

As for the Ensign though, I'm not sure. I will happilly differentiate between Cornishness and Englishness but the Blue Ensign that flies from my backstay is a British thing, not English necessarilly.

'Flying' the ensign as my avatar is more a way of pointing out my Cornishness to other forumites, I am not sure I would ever end up as my ensign on the boat, even after I move home, however the idea of a massive one as a battleflag is rather more appealing.
 
I never said that the Lincolnshire flag was a comparison , but as I'm Welsh I can fly a flag that's almost garuanteed to wind up English sailors , but the duster will do for me thanks , I'm only interested in enjoying the time on any boat , not winding others up
 
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JJ has succeeded in winding you lot up, admirably.

So, if a bunch of small-minded bigots want to fly an ugly flag, let'em. At least the rest of can steer clear and be spared listening to that dirge about whether Trelawny has fallen of the twig.

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Hang on there Ken, I find that really very offensive (and I don't even want to fly the thing). What is biggotted about it?
 
Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred or intolerance.

Bear in mind that I'm one who thinks all geographic distinctions should be done away with, that all men are equal (except bagpipers) and that the concept of the nation state (or subdivisions thereof) has - along with religion - caused more death and suffering than mankind deserves. Show me a man wrapped in a flag, and I see a scoundrel.
 
Well intellectually you are right, if a little souless; I'm sure you're not really but you have to understand the literally ridiculous pride that a Cornishman feels in his Cornishness. However this pride, which is what leads to the ensign, amongst other symbols, is not about hatred of others, it is about celebration of our own identity in the face of the paranoid state biggotry of the English. Anyone who was at Twikers a few weeks ago will see what I mean.
 
Thousands of brave merchant seaman gave their lives in the "Battle of the Atlantic" under the Red Ensign. Fly it with pride, rather some other dubious bit of rag dreamt up by a flagmaker in order to make a quick buck.
 
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(cut) as I'm Welsh I can fly a flag that's almost garuanteed to wind up English sailors , (cut)

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Won't upset me mate, I have a full size Draig Coch as a battleflag. Beautiful design, altho' I have been told that the red dragon itself is derived from an English King's emblem. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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Thousands of brave merchant seaman gave their lives in the "Battle of the Atlantic" under the Red Ensign. Fly it with pride, rather some other dubious bit of rag dreamt up by a flagmaker in order to make a quick buck.

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No one gives their life for a flag. The debacle by the Royal Navy in Iraq has shown us that. Lives are given for friends and family etc. As Jesus himself said two thousand years ago" Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends."
John 15:12-14 )
 
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And I think the dragon originally came from the Romans?

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I recall learning at school that the dragon was the symbol of the Pendragon, High King of the British Isles, or at least those bits that acknowledged a High King. Not to be outdone the Saxons produced the concept of Bretwalda, High King of Britain, or at least the bits conquered by the Saxons.

There's some more stuff about this if you read Cornwell's rather fine Warlord Chronicles.

Just to confuse I have sailed to Newport aboard a Russian ship, masquerading as an English one, purporting to be in 1642 and flying the Commonwealth (1650s) ensign and the personal standard of the General at Sea, which caused no end of confusion at a certain Cowes-based YC, just as you head into the medina from Yarmouth. OK, opening fire at them & the castle was prearranged, and they did replace their White with a plain George and shot back. All good fun, except for the Red Funnel skipper who's VHF question was plaintive,and a tad fretful.
 
Big trouble: the Devon courtesy flag and the police.

Don't know about Cornwall, but the Devon courtesy flag can get you into serious trouble.

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Re: Big trouble: the Devon courtesy flag and the police.

If you fly a Devon flag in Cornwall you can expect a reaction. What reaction would you expect if you sailed up the Clyde with an English courtesy flag!
 
Re: Big trouble: the Devon courtesy flag and the police.

Hmm a better analogy might be sailing up the Clyde with an Edinburgh courtesy flag!
 
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